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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Gyeonggi renewal Reply with quote

My co-teacher spoke with Wenise Kim today, my contract ends on May 13th. The 2 week renewal break will have to be taken in Summer. Why?

Because a 2 week break during April/May would conflict with our teaching schedule, Wenise explained my school is not being awkward, but I can't take a break during the school semester.

So, if you work at a p.s. in Gyeonggi and you renew your contract during class time, be aware you may have to take the 2 week break at a later date.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You posted that same thing the other day.

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This afternoon, my new co-teacher talks to me about when to take my 2 week contract renewal break e.g. mid-April/early May. My contract ends May 13th.

She phones some GEPIK official and he tells her I can only take that 2 week break for renewal in August 2008, even though the current contract ends May 13th.

I checked my contract it kind of confirms this because there is a clause about me not being allowed to take the 2 weeks if it conflicts with the school's schedule, which is sort of what my co-teacher alluded to.

Thing is, it also states in that clause the 2 weeks must be just before or after the contract ends.

I will explain to my co-teacher I have to return to Britain soon to apostille the criminal check, it can be done online through various companies, but I will try this approach to see if I can get the 2 week break, earlier.

I'll call Wenise Kim etc. soon.

Any advice?
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but this is confirmation. Laughing
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ceesgetdegrees



Joined: 12 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes sense though. If you are going to renew then just wait for the extra vacation over the summer, it's only another month and a half anyways.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends how it's worded in the contract.

My contract is up at the end of June, I will re-sign. I have the two week clause in it that I will exercise, even though it's another four weeks to the summer vacation.

It's not my fault that I started during the school year. If it's there in writing you should be able to take it.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Gyeonggi renewal Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:
My co-teacher spoke with Wenise Kim today, my contract ends on May 13th. The 2 week renewal break will have to be taken in Summer. Why?

Because a 2 week break during April/May would conflict with our teaching schedule, Wenise explained my school is not being awkward, but I can't take a break during the school semester.

So, if you work at a p.s. in Gyeonggi and you renew your contract during class time, be aware you may have to take the 2 week break at a later date.


Please get out your contract and tell me what it says under article 9 section 3.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Gyeonggi renewal Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:
So, if you work at a p.s. in Gyeonggi and you renew your contract during class time, be aware you may have to take the 2 week break at a later date.


it depends on the person and how good they are at enforcing their contract at their school. it might also help to tell them the following 2 scenarios:

scenario A: FT leaves for home leave, school pissed and inconvenienced for 2 weeks

scenario B: FT leaves for good, school runs around and tries to get another FT for 2+ weeks
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can a foreigner enforce their contract when the likes of Wenise Kim even agree this is something the employer is allowed to do in the contract.

The bit about not being able to take a break which conflicts with school schedule is relevant to this.

I've checked, in May there are two 3-day weekends, and if I go back home in July/August, at least the weather will be good in England.

I can also check I get my severance and housing deposit on time because I will be here to irritate the admin centre at my school.

As I'm married, I cannot be bothered to make idle threats about leaving and then have to find another school to go to. If I found another job through GEPIK I believe I'd need to submit all of the documents again, which I can't be bothered to do.

Thankfully, I will still get the 2 week break, but at a later date, that's one plus, at least I know I will get the vacation time eventuallly (unlike working at a hagwon).

I am quite settled where I am and my new co-teacher is fairly pleasant.

Interestingly, I've not heard from some recruiters I've recently contacted. I remember before I came to Korea I was inundated with offers from recruiters, but nowadays they never seem to reply.

This would mean I'd have to go through GEPIK to get another job and I can't be bothered with filling in all of those forms and submitting the documents again.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just me, but I wouldn't care. As long as I still got it (fully), I would just take it later. But I also understand some people might have things going on at home during that time or other reasons to have it at a specific time.
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Binch Lover



Joined: 25 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of a name is Wenise? Hahahahahaha
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a no brainer that you'd take it during school vacation time.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:
As I'm married, I cannot be bothered to make idle threats about leaving and then have to find another school to go to. If I found another job through GEPIK I believe I'd need to submit all of the documents again, which I can't be bothered to do.


and that is exactly why your principal and school are treating you like this: they know you won't leave them, so they'll do whatever they want with you.
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vdowd



Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Location: Iksan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Vacation Reply with quote

I can understand the school position and that Wenise confirmed it by phone BUT I would get this in writing with the exact dates with the reason (to ensure payment for all time). Sorry but if they have left it this late to inform you of the problem, I would not trust that their thinking would not change again. GET IT IN WRITING.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With respect nomad-ish, my Principal doesn't know his bottom from his elbow on this issue. Because all answers to this issue have come from contact with the board of education, and not my school or Principal.

I think it is melodramatic to suggest the school will do whatever they want with me. I agree, it's not an ideal situation, but I prefer to stay here because I can't be bothered to move.

My co-teacher explained which dates are available for me to take in July/August today.

This issue is already in writing, it's in my contract, about not being able to take breaks when classes are in progress.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in EPIK. I renewed during the school year, September.
The school said I should take my home leave during the scholl year as the contract states (2 weeks prior to renewal). I argued that it didn't make sense and that I preferred to take it in Jan-Feb when my family was going to go to Canada to meet family for the first time.. They agreed to it. In the space of five weeks (dec-Jan), both my Grandmothers died.
Trip to Canada cancelled. I told the school and said I would reschedule for summer.
School came back and said if you dont' use it Jan-Feb, you lose it and the airfare.
It is now March. According to them, I have lost those contractually agreed items.

Yes, it may make sense to tkae it during school break, but on the other hand....you run the risk of getting boinked.
This year, as my wife will be due at about that time, I will be taking my renewal home leave during the school year. I'm not getting boinked that way again.
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