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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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I have a B1/B2 visa and work is restricted and will get you deported. However, provided you have the means(money) you can stay to a max of six months(if the immi officer thinks your good for coin).
Green cards cost US$1,400(to file an application/all ifo. must be correct, all supporting docs must be there, full medical by a govt. approved doctor in a sealed envelope. After all that it still doesn't mean you'll get the card) and take up to six months to get after attending an interiew, than later, finger printing. I sponsored myself(you need upwards of 75k in cash minimum) through having paid cash for a house and transferring money into my newly opened checking acc.. Having skills, degrees, no crim. convictions go a long way to getting approved. What skills do these hard done by Koreans have? |
What are you talking about? Green cards have nothing to do with tourist visas or the visa waiver program. You cannot just enter the U.S. on a tourist visa and then sponsor yourself for a green card.
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Koamerican mentions Koreans standing around in the rain. That's impossible because interviews are by invitation only at a nominated city, full security check, etc. We're talking Homeland security here and not standing in line for a Lotto ticket. Just milling around sounds like a meat market thing in Korea.
Where'd he get his info? |
Impossible? Last time I was at the U.S. Embassy there were at least a couple of hundred Koreans standing outside waiting for the embassy to open so they could go through the security check and then get in line inside. The Embassy FAQ says:
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What does my appointment time mean?
Your appointment time is the time when we are expecting you to appear at the first floor of the U.S. Embassy Seoul, Nonimmigrant Visa (NIV) branch, to begin your NIV application processing, one of 400,000 applications we process annually. Your interview will not be at that time, it will be later. For example, if your appointment is at 9:00 AM, please be inside the Embassy at 9:00 AM. Your interview is only the last part of your NIV processing on the day of your appointment. We try to interview applicants within one hour upon their arrival at the Embassy, but given our large volume and high complexity of applications, we can never guarantee that NIV processing can be finished in time to suit anyone's plans.... |
Getting a tourist visa is an extremely burdensome process. Fill out the application, gather all the required documents, pay the $131 fee, travel to the embassy for the interview. For people living far from Seoul, the 9AM appointment may mean having to fly up to Seoul the day before and spending the night in a hotel so they can get there early enough to stand in line outside and wait for them to open the doors so they can get in line inside and hopefully finish in time to be able to fly home the same day. The whole process is a big pain in the behind. Contrast that with American tourists can get into Korea without any visa. |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| fusionbarnone wrote: |
I have a B1/B2 visa and work is restricted and will get you deported. However, provided you have the means(money) you can stay to a max of six months(if the immi officer thinks your good for coin).
Green cards cost US$1,400(to file an application/all ifo. must be correct, all supporting docs must be there, full medical by a govt. approved doctor in a sealed envelope. After all that it still doesn't mean you'll get the card) and take up to six months to get after attending an interiew, than later, finger printing. I sponsored myself(you need upwards of 75k in cash minimum) through having paid cash for a house and transferring money into my newly opened checking acc.. Having skills, degrees, no crim. convictions go a long way to getting approved. What skills do these hard done by Koreans have? |
What are you talking about? Green cards have nothing to do with tourist visas or the visa waiver program. You cannot just enter the U.S. on a tourist visa and then sponsor yourself for a green card.
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Koamerican mentions Koreans standing around in the rain. That's impossible because interviews are by invitation only at a nominated city, full security check, etc. We're talking Homeland security here and not standing in line for a Lotto ticket. Just milling around sounds like a meat market thing in Korea.
Where'd he get his info? |
Impossible? Last time I was at the U.S. Embassy there were at least a couple of hundred Koreans standing outside waiting for the embassy to open so they could go through the security check and then get in line inside. The Embassy FAQ says:
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What does my appointment time mean?
Your appointment time is the time when we are expecting you to appear at the first floor of the U.S. Embassy Seoul, Nonimmigrant Visa (NIV) branch, to begin your NIV application processing, one of 400,000 applications we process annually. Your interview will not be at that time, it will be later. For example, if your appointment is at 9:00 AM, please be inside the Embassy at 9:00 AM. Your interview is only the last part of your NIV processing on the day of your appointment. We try to interview applicants within one hour upon their arrival at the Embassy, but given our large volume and high complexity of applications, we can never guarantee that NIV processing can be finished in time to suit anyone's plans.... |
Getting a tourist visa is an extremely burdensome process. Fill out the application, gather all the required documents, pay the $131 fee, travel to the embassy for the interview. For people living far from Seoul, the 9AM appointment may mean having to fly up to Seoul the day before and spending the night in a hotel so they can get there early enough to stand in line outside and wait for them to open the doors so they can get in line inside and hopefully finish in time to be able to fly home the same day. The whole process is a big pain in the behind. Contrast that with American tourists can get into Korea without any visa. |
What do you know? Have you ever gone through the process? Money talks pal. BS walks. That's how I was able to change my status. Guess that cancels most of your kith n kin right out huh, unless a restaurant owning relative is able to sponsor the rest of the clan this is probably how poor K-folk grease in on the cheap seats.
Do you have enough money to support yourself/home/dependents for six solid months without income whilst awaiting an interview in the US? Are you an indignant K-person annoyed the barbarian people of NA won't bend over for ya in a timely manner?
Do you even have skills, qualifications, and money to make things happen outside your beloved Seoul?
I could be right to guess most probably not.
Enjoy your stay in the sun awaiting your tourist visa on which you intend to overstay.
The US does not owe Koreans free access with all the trimmings just because Koreans believe their own nationalistic hype on their own turf. Must sting huh, that K-folk feel discriminated against in their own country because they're not getting their way on their own turf. Ya like your new empathy with the trampled rights of foreigners in the ROK now? Tickles don't it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, 6 pages of waygookins displaying xenophobia while criticizing Koreans for being xenophobic. |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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What do you know? Have you ever gone through the process? Money talks pal. BS walks. That's how I was able to change my status. Guess that cancels most of your kith n kin right out huh, unless a restaurant owning relative is able to sponsor the rest of the clan this is probably how poor K-folk grease in on the cheap seats.
Do you have enough money to support yourself/home/dependents for six solid months without income whilst awaiting an interview in the US? Are you an indignant K-person annoyed the barbarian people of NA won't bend over for ya in a timely manner?
Do you even have skills, qualifications, and money to make things happen outside your beloved Seoul?
I could be right to guess most probably not.
Enjoy your stay in the sun awaiting your tourist visa on which you intend to overstay.
The US does not owe Koreans free access with all the trimmings just because Koreans believe their own nationalistic hype on their own turf. Must sting huh, that K-folk feel discriminated against in their own country because they're not getting their way on their own turf. Ya like your new empathy with the trampled rights of foreigners in the ROK now? Tickles don't it. |
Yes, it is true that certain skills may make it possible for you to get a green card, however, generally speaking the I-140 petition for alien worker has to be filed by the U.S. employer, not the alien. There are special rules for doctors and possibly some others, and of course there is the investor eligibility based on investing at least a half million and employing at least 10 workers, but you seem to be missing the main point. All this talk of green cards and skills have nothing to do with the visa waiver program. It's irrelevant. Your ranting assumption that I am Korean is also wrong and quite funny. Is anything I have said any more or less true because you think I'm Korean? And they say Koreans lack logic.
The U.S. certainly does not owe Korean free access. However I don't see anything unreasonable in Korea asking for the same consideration given to the other countries in the VWP. I expect that when they meet the conditions that have been set by the U.S. government they will be admitted to the VWP, regardless of what people of your sort think. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Someone with a Korean passport can go to just about any country with no problems except for our old ally the US, thanks America! |
That's a bit of an exaggeration. The travel visa refusal rate for Koreans is around 3% already, very near the VWP limit. That means that 97 out of 100 Koreans who apply for a tourist visit to the U.S. receive it. So, most Koreans who want to visit the U.S., can.
Keep in mind that there are numerous other nations that require Koreans to obtain tourist visas, including the P.R.C. and Russia, and until recently, Japan.
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| Keep in mind that the US has had these laws against Koreans entering for decades before 911. |
The U.S. has no laws against Koreans entering. Quit lying.
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| As for prostitution there are hundreds of thousands of white prostitutes from Eastern Europe working in Western Europe (estimated 500,000 since 2004) and North America. I think that they should be of more concern to the west than a few thousand Korean prostitutes. |
Why? What is so special about your co-ethnics? And there are certainly more Korean and Asian prostitutes in the U.S. than there are Eastern European prostitutes in the U.S.
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| The quotes basically say that the appointments have no meaning because people still have to wait on average 1 to 2 hours outside. I'm just pointing out that this is a barbaric practice that has gone on a long time and that any problems English teachers are having pales in comparison to it. |
You must be on drugs. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Wow, 6 pages of waygookins displaying xenophobia while criticizing Koreans for being xenophobic. |
LOL  |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| fusionbarnone wrote: |
What do you know? Have you ever gone through the process? Money talks pal. BS walks. That's how I was able to change my status. Guess that cancels most of your kith n kin right out huh, unless a restaurant owning relative is able to sponsor the rest of the clan this is probably how poor K-folk grease in on the cheap seats.
Do you have enough money to support yourself/home/dependents for six solid months without income whilst awaiting an interview in the US? Are you an indignant K-person annoyed the barbarian people of NA won't bend over for ya in a timely manner?
Do you even have skills, qualifications, and money to make things happen outside your beloved Seoul?
I could be right to guess most probably not.
Enjoy your stay in the sun awaiting your tourist visa on which you intend to overstay.
The US does not owe Koreans free access with all the trimmings just because Koreans believe their own nationalistic hype on their own turf. Must sting huh, that K-folk feel discriminated against in their own country because they're not getting their way on their own turf. Ya like your new empathy with the trampled rights of foreigners in the ROK now? Tickles don't it. |
Yes, it is true that certain skills may make it possible for you to get a green card, however, generally speaking the I-140 petition for alien worker has to be filed by the U.S. employer, not the alien. There are special rules for doctors and possibly some others, and of course there is the investor eligibility based on investing at least a half million and employing at least 10 workers, but you seem to be missing the main point. All this talk of green cards and skills have nothing to do with the visa waiver program. It's irrelevant. Your ranting assumption that I am Korean is also wrong and quite funny. Is anything I have said any more or less true because you think I'm Korean? And they say Koreans lack logic.
The U.S. certainly does not owe Korean free access. However I don't see anything unreasonable in Korea asking for the same consideration given to the other countries in the VWP. I expect that when they meet the conditions that have been set by the U.S. government they will be admitted to the VWP, regardless of what people of your sort think. |
Oh, really!
You must be an E2 type. Wonder how ah gets ta sponsor ma self employa free? Likes ah said "money, skills, quals, talks plenty".Cool, huh?
I think you are funny in a confused way.
So where you plum?
To get a B1/B2 visa is no instant lollipop given freely. Yous gots ta apply n be accepted buddy. It's good for 10 years, eh.
As far as visa issues are concerned, do you really think Homeland Security is gonna open up just for you and your buddies(don't know what you are; don't care)?
The turtle ships are pointed west my friend to the golden land of opportunism. Oops, I forgot, the rudder has a spanner in it.
Who do you think you are championing, your tax-payer BA ?
Don't forget your brollie now. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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jaykimf- Let me get this straight. You're mad at the US and want all US Immigration laws scrapped only because you had to wait in line at the US embassy in Seoul on a busy day?
Why not just post that the US embassy needs to hire more staff? |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Wow, 6 pages of waygookins displaying xenophobia while criticizing Koreans for being xenophobic. |
If so many Koreans want to flee Korea, what does that say about Korea? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| fusionbarnone wrote: |
What do you know? Have you ever gone through the process? Money talks pal. BS walks. That's how I was able to change my status. Guess that cancels most of your kith n kin right out huh, unless a restaurant owning relative is able to sponsor the rest of the clan this is probably how poor K-folk grease in on the cheap seats.
Do you have enough money to support yourself/home/dependents for six solid months without income whilst awaiting an interview in the US? Are you an indignant K-person annoyed the barbarian people of NA won't bend over for ya in a timely manner?
Do you even have skills, qualifications, and money to make things happen outside your beloved Seoul?
I could be right to guess most probably not.
Enjoy your stay in the sun awaiting your tourist visa on which you intend to overstay.
The US does not owe Koreans free access with all the trimmings just because Koreans believe their own nationalistic hype on their own turf. Must sting huh, that K-folk feel discriminated against in their own country because they're not getting their way on their own turf. Ya like your new empathy with the trampled rights of foreigners in the ROK now? Tickles don't it. |
Yes, it is true that certain skills may make it possible for you to get a green card, however, generally speaking the I-140 petition for alien worker has to be filed by the U.S. employer, not the alien. There are special rules for doctors and possibly some others, and of course there is the investor eligibility based on investing at least a half million and employing at least 10 workers, but you seem to be missing the main point. All this talk of green cards and skills have nothing to do with the visa waiver program. It's irrelevant. Your ranting assumption that I am Korean is also wrong and quite funny. Is anything I have said any more or less true because you think I'm Korean? And they say Koreans lack logic.
The U.S. certainly does not owe Korean free access. However I don't see anything unreasonable in Korea asking for the same consideration given to the other countries in the VWP. I expect that when they meet the conditions that have been set by the U.S. government they will be admitted to the VWP, regardless of what people of your sort think. |
I agree. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I just posted an article from the Korea Times that said that the Korean government is mulling a plan to let Chinese nationals into Korea visa-free and boy! did you hear the complaints from the Koreans about how doing such a thing would make the crime rate jump.......I find complaining about not being a member of the VWP and going after people who can see repercussions from it, then complain about another group being let into Korea by saying that they will cause the crimerate to go up- hypocritcal.
Here's my post
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=115857&highlight=
And I don;t want to hear sh!t like "The situation of letting Chinese come to Korea is a different story."..........no, It's not!
I will say this (again)
If Korea allows the Chinese to enter Korea visa-free and without any restrictions, then I will support and actually lobby for Korea to enter the VWP......my challenge to Korea........... |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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I just posted an article from the Korea Times that said that the Korean government is mulling a plan to let Chinese nationals into Korea visa-free and boy! did you hear the complaints from the Koreans about how doing such a thing would make the crime rate jump.......I find complaining about not being a member of the VWP and going after people who can see repercussions from it, then complain about another group being let into Korea by saying that they will cause the crimerate to go up- hypocritcal.
Here's my post
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=115857&highlight=
And I don;t want to hear *beep* like "The situation of letting Chinese come to Korea is a different story."..........no, It's not!
I will say this (again)
If Korea allows the Chinese to enter Korea visa-free and without any restrictions, then I will support and actually lobby for Korea to enter the VWP......my challenge to Korea........... |
You're opposed to letting Korea into the VWP because of the illegal immigrants and prostitutes who would be able to get in, but you're ready to turn around and lobby to allow in those same illegal immigrants and prostitutes IF Korea allows Chinese illegal immigrants and prostitutes to enter without a visa? Wow! You seem to have a screw loose. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| You seem to have a screw loose. |
Wow! Typical Korean reaction with a typical Korean quotation. Too bad you can't be more original.....actually, it is sad............Too bad I'm not Korean or else I might've taken offense to that.......
...But if it makes you feel any better...here, I'll shed one (1) tear for you....
I know......very 'generic' of me too..... .....oh well..........
Not necessarily.....
I am practically daring Korea and their 'traditional' way of thinking to change by saying that if Korea were to allow Chinese into Korea visa-free and if Koreans were to throw away their fears that the Chinese would hurt Korea instead of help it, then I am willing (as a naturally born American, unlike you, a person who might've been one of the thousands of anchor-babies whose parents paid thousands of dollars so their children could only 'boast' about being an American) to change my thinking that Koreans would be a burden on our system as well......I would say a 'tit-for-tat' exchange.....
But I can see you are one of those xenophobic types that don't want the Chinese to have visa-free access to Korea......
I would like to know your reasons why you feel so? asides from the normal Korean reaction that has already been stated on the Korea Times forum, which is a load of horse sh-t.......So, please Gaykimf, try to think outside the box on this one......which I and many other posters know you can't because the average Korean can't think outside the 'Korean' box.......
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| If so many Koreans want to flee Korea, what does that say about Korea? |
Jaykimf is a prime example of what makes Korea so......."Sparkling*" |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a native born American descended from 100% European stock and I'm just fine with with Korea letting Chinese tourists in visa free. As for the rest, your own words speak for themselves. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a native born American descended from 100% European stock and I'm just fine with with Korea letting Chinese tourists in visa free. As for the rest, your own words speak for themselves. |
Well, how can you claim to be an American-born Korean on another thread?
2+2=5?....I don't think so.......
You're nothing but a disgruntle and pathetic Korean netizen trying (poorly) to pass themselves off as an American.....which is kinda' pathetic.....but do people expect on an anonymous message board.....
c'mon, you don't even know American tax regulations (YOU DON'T FILE AN INCOME TAX FORM [unless it is Tax Form 2555] UNLESS YOU EARN MORE THAN $85,500......)..you mix up your own threads........
Stop coming and going between reality and la-la-land........you're better off returning to your own forums on DAUM.
Nauneun joji mogo, deodeoweo shipbal dwaejji saekki..... 
Jokka-ni!.....but have a nice day  ...chal-ga! |
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