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Bush vetos humane conduct, protects torture
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Justin Hale



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
TheChickenLover wrote:
Compared to those people who make videos of cutting off people's heads screaming Allah is great, I think the US has been FAR too civil in this matter.

I'd like to see them fight without their hands tied behind their backs & really have the option to go in & finish this war.

For example, CNN shows a group meeting of insurgents in a house. They're ready to bomb it, but one insurgent puts a boy on the doorstep. The US cancels the bombing not to kill the boy.

If it were me, I'd have bombed the house. People need to understand that by associating & helping insurgents, you're just as guilty as they are. As far as I can tell, the US has been far too lenient & civil. They really need to be allowed to do what it takes.

Chicken


That's exactly what they would have done if CNN wasn't there.


Hopefully.

Better to live as king of beasts than as a lamb scared and weak.
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hale wrote:
Better to live as king of beasts than as a lamb scared and weak.


Go tell those scared, weak lambs in the American armed forces, then, because they want our interrogation techniques to mirror the Army Field Manual.

Funny how the people who want to torture prisoners are almost always the ones who have never heard a shot fired in anger.
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Justin Hale



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't support torture to gain information. Someone being tortured will tell you anything, as Chris Penn's character in Resevoir Dogs put it, although sadly I forget exactly how.
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Saxiif



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
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The practice as used by the CIA bears similarities to the methods of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia...


Then should not Noam Chomsky and the far left be praising the W. Bush Administration...?


Wha?

Chomsky, for all of his silliness, was always against the Khmer Rouge. Actually it was the American government who spoke out against the Vietnamese finally knocking them out of power.
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stillnotking



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxiif wrote:
Gopher wrote:
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The practice as used by the CIA bears similarities to the methods of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia...


Then should not Noam Chomsky and the far left be praising the W. Bush Administration...?


Wha?

Chomsky, for all of his silliness, was always against the Khmer Rouge. Actually it was the American government who spoke out against the Vietnamese finally knocking them out of power.


Chomsky, for all his silliness, was still right about Vietnam and conservatives were wrong; the anguish of this intolerable cognitive dissonance leads them to accuse him of all manner of monstrous crimes. You learn to tune it out after a while.

Another fun way to make their heads explode is to point out that Don Rumsfeld said we'd be out of Iraq in six months, while Hunter Thompson was roundly ridiculed for asserting we would still be there in strength in five years. Five years?!? Get real, you stupid drug-addled hippie moron!

Heh.
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stillnotking



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hale wrote:
No, I don't support torture to gain information. Someone being tortured will tell you anything, as Chris Penn's character in Resevoir Dogs put it, although sadly I forget exactly how.


Well presumably you don't support torture for recreational purposes, so I guess we're on the same page...
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