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garykasparov
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Foreign Teachers Launching Association |
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Foreign Teachers Launching Association
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/03/117_20528.html
Tom Rainey-Smith
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
A group of foreign teachers has started a move to form an association for native English-speaking instructors to represent their interests and to play a bridging role between Korean and non-Korean English teachers.
Its tentative name is the Association for Teachers of English in Korea (ATEK: http://atek.or.kr/), and it seeks to become the first-ever national organization for contract foreign teachers.
Tom Rainey-Smith, 26, one of the ATEK founding members, said that the organization will take a leading role in building bridges between foreign teachers and parents, employers, government agencies and other stakeholders in English language education in Korea. He teaches at a private institute in Seoul. Among the founding members are teachers from public schools.
It will invite contract English language teachers including E (E-1 for professors and E-2 for foreign language instructors) and F (F-4 for ethnic Koreans from overseas) visa holders _ those who share many of the same challenges working at public schools, private learning institutes and universities.
According to the Korea Immigration Service, there are 1,230 foreigners with E-1 visas, 17,355 with E-2 visas and 35,309 with F-4 visas as of January.
``We don�t only want to be a voice for foreign teachers. We want to be the voice of foreign teachers. Our major goal is to improve relations between Korean teachers and contract foreign teachers working in Korea,�� said Rainey-Smith from New Zealand in an interview with The Korea Times.
``It was a job someone had to do. I feel that I can take on this responsibility because I am currently working under good conditions. I want to pass this role on to somebody else when this organization is stable.''
ATEK aims to solve difficulties and troubles that many foreign teachers now face. He enumerated the issues; unpaid salaries, pensions, taxes and health insurance, unsafe and inadequate housing arrangements, arbitrary changes to employment contracts and employers� refusal to provide letters of release as well as unfair banking practices.
Rainey-Smith, serving as a media relations officer for the association, said it will also encourage cultural diversity by campaigning against sexual, racial and other forms of discrimination such as advertisements of hagwon that say they only want ``white teachers.��
In the long run, ATEK will pursue ``visa flexibility.�� The Japanese government allows visa flexibility whereby teachers can enter the country and work for any employer unlike Korea where educators must remain with their sponsors and are not allowed to transfer to other workplaces.
ATEK has set up five acting positions for official launching the project; membership coordinator, media relations officer, employer and community relations officer, professional development coordinator and legal assistance coordinator.
``Once we have heard from all stakeholders and gain wider appeal and support from teachers, we'll hold a meeting to have democratic elections to populate the council members. Also, we want to emphasize that board members will work as volunteers,'' Rainey-Smith said.
The association will either seek government sponsorship or be self-funding. In case it needs to raise funds from its members, the subscription will be very low, he added.
ATEK will also take a role of cultural induction in order to buffer culture shock of newly arriving foreigners. ``We will provide access to legal resources and counseling to newcomers and act as a mediator. At the same time we will play the role of passing on important information to all foreign teachers,'' he said.
So far, ATEK founding members have spoken to labor organizations and the Education Ministry.
The organization has been working with legal experts regarding contract issues of migrant workers. ``We considered both the options of forming a union and an association. Having discussed these options with labor experts, we concluded that an association is the best form of organization to address those issues and that the government would be more responsive to our group.''
He was also confident that the association will improve professional development of its members and noted that membership would be easy.
It seeks to eventually form global networks. Another association founding member, Jason Thomas, will meet members of the Association for Japan Exchange and Teaching program (AJET), its counterpart in Japan this week.
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Join Me

Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Best of luck to these people, but it will take all of our support to make it work. There is an e-mail in the article for information on joining....everyone should use it. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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this is really needed here. i hope it works. if i'm back next year, i'll probably join |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds great. It's about time. |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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We need to act as a group if this is going to work. It sounds very positive and I hope that they are successful. I am definately going to help anyway I can. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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As a holder of a lowly E-2fuckmeover Visa am I able to be a member of this group and participate in it? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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First, I would love for this to work. Second, sadly, I don't think much will come out of it. We will see how serious the government is in listening to foreigners organized.
I don't bet but I have a question for those of you who do: What do you think the odds are for the people organizing this particular organization (F-4 and E-series visas) having their visas revoked by either their employer or the government? |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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The link above is a bit sketchy, here's a better one:
http://atek.or.kr/join.html
I'll be joining as well. It would be nice if this were a sticky! |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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mrsquirrel wrote: |
As a holder of a lowly E-2fuckmeover Visa am I able to be a member of this group and participate in it? |
I have always heard that such organizations were illegal for waygookin. |
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Slaps
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Location: Sitting on top of the world
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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In the long run, ATEK will pursue ``visa flexibility.�� |
Surely this will mean the end of 'free' housing and flights. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Koreatown
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a good idea if it actually gets off the ground and is taken at all seriously by the K-government. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Teachers Launching Association |
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"]Foreign Teachers Launching Association
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/03/117_20528.html
Tom Rainey-Smith
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
A group of foreign teachers has started a move to form an association for native English-speaking instructors to represent their interests and to play a bridging role between Korean and non-Korean English teachers.
Its tentative name is the Association for Teachers of English in Korea (ATEK: http://atek.or.kr/), and it seeks to become the first-ever national organization for contract foreign teachers.
Tom Rainey-Smith, 26, one of the ATEK founding members, said that the organization will take a leading role in building bridges between foreign teachers and parents, employers, government agencies and other stakeholders in English language education in Korea. He teaches at a private institute in Seoul. Among the founding members are teachers from public schools.
It will invite contract English language teachers including E (E-1 for professors and E-2 for foreign language instructors) and F (F-4 for ethnic Koreans from overseas) visa holders _ those who share many of the same challenges working at public schools, private learning institutes and universities.
According to the Korea Immigration Service, there are 1,230 foreigners with E-1 visas, 17,355 with E-2 visas and 35,309 with F-4 visas as of January.
``We don�t only want to be a voice for foreign teachers. We want to be the voice of foreign teachers. Our major goal is to improve relations between Korean teachers and contract foreign teachers working in Korea,�� said Rainey-Smith from New Zealand in an interview with The Korea Times.
``It was a job someone had to do. I feel that I can take on this responsibility because I am currently working under good conditions. I want to pass this role on to somebody else when this organization is stable.''
ATEK aims to solve difficulties and troubles that many foreign teachers now face. He enumerated the issues; unpaid salaries, pensions, taxes and health insurance, unsafe and inadequate housing arrangements, arbitrary changes to employment contracts and employers� refusal to provide letters of release as well as unfair banking practices.
Rainey-Smith, serving as a media relations officer for the association, said it will also encourage cultural diversity by campaigning against sexual, racial and other forms of discrimination such as advertisements of hagwon that say they only want ``white teachers.��
In the long run, ATEK will pursue ``visa flexibility.�� The Japanese government allows visa flexibility whereby teachers can enter the country and work for any employer unlike Korea where educators must remain with their sponsors and are not allowed to transfer to other workplaces.
ATEK has set up five acting positions for official launching the project; membership coordinator, media relations officer, employer and community relations officer, professional development coordinator and legal assistance coordinator.
``Once we have heard from all stakeholders and gain wider appeal and support from teachers, we'll hold a meeting to have democratic elections to populate the council members. Also, we want to emphasize that board members will work as volunteers,'' Rainey-Smith said.
The association will either seek government sponsorship or be self-funding. In case it needs to raise funds from its members, the subscription will be very low, he added.
ATEK will also take a role of cultural induction in order to buffer culture shock of newly arriving foreigners. ``We will provide access to legal resources and counseling to newcomers and act as a mediator. At the same time we will play the role of passing on important information to all foreign teachers,'' he said.
So far, ATEK founding members have spoken to labor organizations and the Education Ministry.
The organization has been working with legal experts regarding contract issues of migrant workers. ``We considered both the options of forming a union and an association. Having discussed these options with labor experts, we concluded that an association is the best form of organization to address those issues and that the government would be more responsive to our group.''
He was also confident that the association will improve professional development of its members and noted that membership would be easy.
It seeks to eventually form global networks. Another association founding member, Jason Thomas, will meet members of the Association for Japan Exchange and Teaching program (AJET), its counterpart in Japan this week.
[email protected] |
[yawn]
I've heard this tune before. In the event that they do get this off the ground...what are they going to do about illegal teachers?
They certainly don't believe in starting small do they? "unpaid salaries, pensions, taxes and health insurance, unsafe and inadequate housing arrangements, arbitrary changes to employment and employers's refusal to provide letters of release as well as unfair banking practises"
Another thing. Should they force hakwons on the "unsafe and inadequate housing arrangements" it is very likely that hakwons will get rid of housing altogether in future contracts and make the teacher responsible for the key money and finding his or her own. That way they not only save money but can't be held responsible for it. Be careful what you wish for...it might come true.
"cultural diversity", visa flexibility"
Sounds like rather a shotgun approach. Not only are they taking on hakwons, but also public schools, banks and what they perceive as a mindset of "sexual, racial and other forms of discrimination"...umm isn't that the government's job? Doubt they'll be too pleased about foreigners telling them 'this is wrong and this is wrong'.
I wonder how many members it has. Sounds all dressed up in fancy language and titles...bottom line it's a group of foreign teachers planning to start an association.
See you guys in six months then...? |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Teachers Launching Association |
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In the long run, ATEK will pursue ``visa flexibility.�� The Japanese government allows visa flexibility whereby teachers can enter the country and work for any employer unlike Korea where educators must remain with their sponsors and are not allowed to transfer to other workplaces. |
If Korean immigration allowed this it would clean up half the industry. Employers wouldn't be able to simply drive us out of the country and teachers would be able to find new work allowing them to stay here and pursue any labour issues they may have. Currently is is an expensive application process to get here and if you lose your job before the 10month mark you're SOL. Although I'm happy in my job not having the option to change jobs makes me feel like a serf. For most your only options are to stay in a crap job that screws you over or go home. I'd be interested in joining up. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Teachers Launching Association |
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ED209 wrote: |
Although I'm happy in my job not having the option to change jobs makes me feel like a serf. For most your only options are to stay in a crap job that screws you over or go home. |
Exactly. A serf is a paid slave. And that's what the dishonest hagweon owners want you to be. It's also why the South Korean constitution guarantees everyone a right to work without being hindered by their current employer. Sadly, though, that's yet another provision of the constitution their own government believes is toilet paper. |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Teachers Launching Association |
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ED209 wrote: |
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In the long run, ATEK will pursue ``visa flexibility.�� The Japanese government allows visa flexibility whereby teachers can enter the country and work for any employer unlike Korea where educators must remain with their sponsors and are not allowed to transfer to other workplaces. |
If Korean immigration allowed this it would clean up half the industry. Employers wouldn't be able to simply drive us out of the country and teachers would be able to find new work allowing them to stay here and pursue any labour issues they may have. Currently is is an expensive application process to get here and if you lose your job before the 10month mark you're SOL. Although I'm happy in my job not having the option to change jobs makes me feel like a serf. For most your only options are to stay in a crap job that screws you over or go home. I'd be interested in joining up. |
That's the main issue. People need to be allowed to change jobs freely instead of having to take a flight back to the United States and starting the whole process over again. Absolutely batty. |
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