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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| R. S. Refugee wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
And they will all say the same thing "The Republicans cheated. They rigged polls. We demand a recount." |
That accuation has legs historically speaking. . |
Nonsense. If that were so it would be all over the mainstream news. Why not stop getting your disinformation from lefty blogs whose authors (apparently) post from insane asylums?
If there was actual proof of cheating and rigged polls...the opposition wouldn't just demand a recount. Rigged polls are a federal offence and any people proven to have been connected with it would have gone to jail. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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uh oh, i see a major digression from the OP developing....
Little under 8 months to go until the big day. I've already zoned out news about the democratic race. I know my interest will rekindle once it is down to two candidates, but until then? I think my attention will be focused elsewhere. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| He can throw all the punches he wants. He says he's this and that, but who is Obama anyways? That's the problem I have--hasn't been around long enough earning the chops to get The Big Job IMHO. Obscurity was a mere 2 years ago. |
Actually you are close, it was 4 years ago this summer. The Democratic National Convention speech he gave was the first time a national audience got a look at him. |
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jkelly80
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| The main reason why senators don't win is because they have too long and too scrutinized a voting record. Obama doesn't, but it's fun to watch people try to turn this very rare asset into a liability. |
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igotthisguitar
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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Funkdafied
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Location: In Da House
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| You Dems and your drab drivel and dross are whipping up support for John McCain. |
You really don't follow politics much do you ... |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
McCain is gonna win. Of course, with the popularity of this whole Clinton/Obama thing, everyone is going to crown Hillary or Obama President when one of them wins the nomination. And when McCain finally wins, Dems all over the world will be crying and wondering how their superstar candidate lost the election.
And they will all say the same thing "The Republicans cheated. They rigged polls. We demand a recount." |
McCain may win, but he is starting the race at a severe disadvantage. All the fundamentals are against him: party registration, generic ballot preference, a poor economy, an unpopular war, the decline in the Republican brand following numerous scandals...
I don't count McCain out. Anything can happen in a national election. But McCain is definitely not the favorite. |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| The main reason why senators don't win is because they have too long and too scrutinized a voting record. Obama doesn't, but it's fun to watch people try to turn this very rare asset into a liability. |
Very true. It's also worth remembering that none of the candidates this year have any significant level of executive experience, and none of them have an evidentiary claim to being able to respond to the proverbial 3 AM phone call.
The popular perception of a difference between candidates in this regard is largely a function of ignorance. When people get to know McCain's record, in particular, the "C-in-C gap" will shrink dramatically. Being an indifferent naval aviator, a POW, and a twenty-five-year Member of Congress does not qualify a person to be President. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Little under 8 months to go until the big day. I've already zoned out news about the democratic race. |
Its all spin at this point, anyway. The fundamentals are set. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pelosi said it and I agree with her:
Below is the text of her comments
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/obamaclinton_nope_says_pelosi.php
Thinking a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket sounds too good to be true for Democrats? The Speaker of the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California says you're right.
"I think that ticket either way is impossible," Pelosi told NECN's Alison King shortly after an environmental event in Waltham, Massachusetts today.
Pelosi cited comments made by Clinton officials that John McCain would be a better commander-in-chief as an example of why the 'dream ticket' wouldn't become a reality.
As for who she favors at this point, Pelosi, who will chair the Democratic National Convention in Denver, isn't tipping her hand.
"I'm uncommitted," she reiterated to Alison King.
But for hopes of a Clinton-Obama dream team, there's no subtlety.
"I wanted to be sure I didn't leave any ambiguity," she said. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see how Obama-Clinton can break into the South or the West. Mark Warner seems like a more strategic choice, or even prettyboy Edwards. Bill Richardson would be good as well, but I doubt he'd take it. |
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regicide
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| He can throw all the punches he wants. He says he's this and that, but who is Obama anyways? That's the problem I have--hasn't been around long enough earning the chops to get The Big Job IMHO. Obscurity was a mere 2 years ago. |
He seems to have the intelligence to get the job done IMHO.
Kennedy wasn�t prepared for the job either, but when the Missile Crisis came, he handled it better than could have been expected. As you know, his generals wanted him to invade Cuba, which already had functional nuclear warheads with a 90 mile range. He averted nuclear war. His years in the Senate did not prepare him for that.
And who was John Kennedy before his father�s money got him to the Senate? Joe Kennedy once said �I could have elected my driver for what I paid to get Jack elected. ( to the Senate) � The same money and other dirty tricks got him into the White House. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
Kennedy wasn�t prepared for the job either, but when the Missile Crisis came, he handled it better than could have been expected. |
Kennedy was horrible for this country.
He threw the Civil Rights crowd, including MLK, under the bus because he distrusted him.
He made a mockery of us at the Bay of Pigs.
And he brought us to the brink of a nuclear exchange with the Missile Crisis.
But comparisons of him to Obama are unfair. Obama has at least worked to get where he was, but Kennedy was supported by the mob. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Funkdafied wrote: |
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| You Dems and your drab drivel and dross are whipping up support for John McCain. |
You really don't follow politics much do you ... |
Do you actually have a point? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| hasn't been around long enough earning the chops to get The Big Job IMHO. Obscurity was a mere 2 years ago. |
I agree, but the voters want an exciting political scene for once, with a clean break from the Bush and clinton dynasties. |
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