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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: Tourists, Drug Approved, ROK, Korean Wedding Reply with quote

57% of Foreign Tourists Have Communication Difficulties During Their Stay in Seoul
Arirang TV
The latest poll on sentiments regarding travel in Seoul among foreign tourists paints a positive picture of the capital with favored sights being the Gyeongbok Palace and Namdaemoon market while at the same time highlights communication as a major hindrance. A recent survey shows while four out of five foreign tourists visiting Seoul enjoyed their stay in the country, 60 percent of them pointed to communication difficulties as an obstacle during their experience here. http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311270005.html

Drug Approved for Suicide-Prevention
The Korea Food and Drug Administration has approved a new use for the schizophrenia drug, Clozaril. The drug can now be used to reduce the risk of suicidal behavior. http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311270016.html

Where Nothing Works
These days, the Republic of Korea really is a country where nothing works. There's no end to the pile of issues, from U.S. forces, troops for Iraq, labor-management strife, free trade zones and agriculture, the Saeman'geum project, construction of the high speed rail through Mount Geumjeong, the tunnel through Mount Bukhan, the relocation of the capital, screen quotas, Buan, the crisis in confidence in the scholastic aptitude test, and more.

The U.S. economy is dozens of times larger than ours, yet it grows by 3 percent while we sit at 2-point-this-or-that. Exports are holding on, thanks only to the prospering global economy, but there's no guarantee they won't be affected by the prosecution's investigation into the corporations, no knowing whether fluctuations in the exchange rate might bring about a new situation.

There's one thing we'd really like to ask of this government: if you don't have what it takes to fix things, at least don't go creating more problems.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311260025.html

The average cost of a wedding in Korea has reached 133 million won ($110,000), according to a survey published on Thursday.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200311/kt2003112717325711950.htm

Foreign Worker Commits Suicide
While the government continues its crackdown on illegal foreign workers, a 50-year-old Uzbekistani worker on Tuesday hanged himself in Inchon early in the morning. The worker, who was due to be deported to his native country later in the day, was found dead in a bathroom inside a building in the Tong-gu area at around 2 a.m. The incident is already the fourth suicide reported this month of illegal workers who chose to take their own lives rather than leave South Korea.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200311/kt2003112517120811950.htm

Debt default hits new high
Majority of cases from credit card holders
The number of people who defaulted on their debt reached a record high last month.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/27/200311270002587779900090509052.html

Office workers and people in their 30s have been the main victims of layoffs over the past few years, according to a Labor Ministry report released on Wednesday. Only people who lose their jobs due to company restructuring or businesses closures are qualified to receive the unemployment benefits, not those who quit of their own accord.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200311/kt2003112617414511950.htm


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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and your point is?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Information.

Issues related to *living* in South Korea.
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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but most users when posting a news item include some sort of commentary about it. All you do is post and give links. It's all rather non-sequitor and in my opinion useless...

Additionally this particular post has several unrelated bits... you need to focus as well as provide a point.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
57% of Foreign Tourists Have Communication Difficulties During Their Stay in Seoul


no *beep*.... korea is a foreign country...what do you expect?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is information a non sequitur in this forum?

non sequitur:

1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.
2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.

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information

1. Knowledge derived from study, experience, or instruction.
2. Knowledge of specific events or situations that has been gathered or received by communication; intelligence or news. See Synonyms at knowledge.
3. A collection of facts or data: statistical information.
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6. A numerical measure of the uncertainty of an experimental outcome.
7. Law. A formal accusation of a crime made by a public officer rather than by grand jury indictment.

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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well RR, once again I will come to your defense. I believe that your links are well within the rules of this board and you have as much right to post them as some of the threads the others put up here.

Kimchee King, I disagree with your feelings about RR, but applaud the fact that, despite being a mod and having the power to boot him or delete his posts, you don't. I am glad to see that you exercise your right to dissent through dialogue and not censorship.

I will probably get into trouble because defending RR has nothing to do with the OP.

RR, can I make a suggestion though? One link per thread might be better. I don't feel that you are required to comment on anything you post, but others may want to and it gets confusing with so many topics in one thread. Of course, if you start different threads for each one, you'll really tick some people off here...Some of them seem to be on a strict spam-free diet.

Anyway, thanks for the links RR. I will be using the 'Cost of Weddings' one as the basis for an adult free-talking class.

Cheers


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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, the info is appretiated. I think the opinions will come from the board.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, can we give RR a sticky to post potential freetalking topics? Very Happy
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes but most users when posting a news item include some sort of commentary about it. All you do is post and give links. It's all rather non-sequitor and in my opinion useless...

I think with information like that his point is quite clear and doesn't need much comment. He's showing some harder evidence of what we all often vaguely feel but can't put our finger on it or verbalise it. That things are a little weird and messed up here.

Great, informative, relevant posts. We need to know this stuff. Keep it coming. But don't, of course, overload us or repeat yourself. Keep your nose clean. Kimchiking wants everyone to think life in Korea is rosy, and would block your posting of this info if he could muster the other mods to agree. Though I doubt he could get Waterbaby, who shares my concern over the treatment of Hagwon teachers. This is important to know.
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:15 pm    Post subject: Since this wont stop, Reply with quote

Hello RR,

Could you please let us know your thoughts on the various topics you post? Even if its something small like "I agree with this" or "this is crazy!" it would be better then just linking to stories.

There are already great sites that cull Korea related news from all the major newspapers (and quite a few minor news sources as well) and are actually seperated into categories.

www.newsonkorea.com is a great source for discussion topics. They have the following categories:
Korean Crisis
Business News
Internet issues in Korea
Korean Economy
Korean Stock Market
Korean Society & Culture (A personal favorite!)
Korean Education (Another favorite)
Korean "Politics" (Good source for laughs)
Science & Technology



Is this an unreasonable question?
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with KimCheeKing's take on it as well.

The articles are interesting and pertain to living in Korea. I would not otherwise have read these articles if they were not brought to my attention here.

Who says he has to comment on them or give some perspective? I don't get it.....

It would be a good idea to post one link per post though. That way comments can stay focused on one issue at a time.
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS. That Korean Wedding Costs thing is grossly misleading. They say an average Korean wedding costs $110 000 but buying/renting a house is included in that sum! That's absolutely ridiculous.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again more useless spam by RR.

How is SPAM within the rules of the forum?

I think the mods need to clamp down.

Posting stuff that you never comment on, is SPAM.

I see no difference between those posts and the 100s of junk emails that fly my way everyday.

The difference is as I posted before, you spam good threads away from page one.
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Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: Beneath the Underdog

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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