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huffdaddy
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| Do you approve of the US supplying third world dictators with chemical and biological weapons? I guess so. |
Apparently. If we do not oppose the Great Satan we must be mindless flagwavers who cheer all it does. We are either with the United States or against it, right? |
According to you, that seems to be the case. Now run along back to class. Once again, you have nothing to contribute here. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Joo - After all these years, how come you still can't figure out how to use the quote function?
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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Ought the US have supplied Saddam with chemical and biological weapons? |
The US didn't supply him with weapons. |
Really?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm
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| Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene. |
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/31/world/main534798.shtml
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Congressional investigations after the Gulf War revealed that the Commerce Department had licensed sales of biological agents, including anthrax, and insecticides, which could be used in chemical weapons, to Iraq.
When Iraq used chemical weapons against the Kurds in 1987, there was anger in Congress and the White House. But a memo in 1988 from Assistant Secretary of State Richard W. Murphy stated that "The U.S.-Iraqi relationship is � important to our long-term political and economic objectives."
"We believe that economic sanctions will be useless or counterproductive to influence the Iraqis," the Post quoted the memo as saying. |
Note that this same "free hand" approach led Saddam to believe he was free to wipe out the Kurds and to invade Kuwait. Obviously the Reagen/Bush method of dealing with Saddam was a grave mistake. A mistake we are still paying for today as W. tries to clean up the mess.
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| No the US ought not have allowed him to buy much of what he did. However it is also true that much of what Saddam bought was not tightly controlled almost any nation could have bought such items from the US. |
I'm not particularly concerned with the supplies of conventional weapons and unregulated materials. But was selling, or at least allowing Saddam to buy, chemical and biological weapons necessary to counter Iran? Aiding Russia saved US lives. What did aiding Iraq do, besides strengthen Saddam? You can't indict Saddam for having used chemical and biological weapons, and then turn around and defend the US for having provided him with those very same weapons.
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| Remember Khomeni was a fascist bigot . |
Ought the US go after every fascist bigot in the world |
If they out to get the US yes. If there is a high chance they can become very powerful yes. |
If Iran was such a potential threat, why was the US selling them arms?
And why was Iran a bigger threat than Iraq, when it was Iraq who first invaded Iran. And it was Iraq who was using chemical weapons. Choosing the lesser of two evils is an exercise in futility. We should have let them kill each other off on their own terms. |
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