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Easiest way to run 2 PC's through 1 monitor?

 
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eamo



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Easiest way to run 2 PC's through 1 monitor? Reply with quote

I've been trying to get my older PC back into action to act as a dedicated BOINC (SETI@home etc) cruncher.

I've realised that my monitor has a switching function between the DVI connection and the D-sub connection. So I can switch the monitor from PC to PC no problem. So I don't need a KVM.

The tricky part is getting the two PC's to share one keyboard, one mouse and one ethernet connection.

I don't mind getting the Hanaro guy to come out and set up a second internet line. It's only an additional 5000 won on the bill each month. So, that could be the solution for internet.

But how do two PC's share just 1 keyboard and mouse?? I've googgled and got a lot of conflicting information.

I know the easy and cumbersome solution is to just have 2 keyboards and two mice.....but there must be a better way.

Anyone have a simple and elegant solution for a two computer/one monitor set-up?
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Easiest way to run 2 PC's through 1 monitor? Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
I don't mind getting the Hanaro guy to come out and set up a second internet line. It's only an additional 5000 won on the bill each month. So, that could be the solution for internet.

just get a router - total cost 40,000-50,000 and after 8-10 months it'll pay for itself at 5,000 won per month.
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rocklee



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get a usb/vga hub switcher.
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stick a 2nd network card in the main computer and share the internet connection. quick, easy, and costs about 7k won total.

It is not like your boinc machine needs a huge amount of bandwidth.

I don't know of any way for 2 computers to share the keyboard and mouse.

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CGully



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have already found this doing your google search, but this CNet video tutorial shows off a pretty neat open source solution:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Control_two_computers_with_one_keyboard_and_mouse/4660-10165_7-6663696.html

- CGully
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matthews_world



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video was great but does it's the same with 2 towers sharing the same keyboard, mouse and monitor? Or does one need to buy the extra monitor?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Just stick a 2nd network card in the main computer and share the internet connection. quick, easy, and costs about 7k won total.



That works? I just have to run an ethernet cable from main PC to network card in the 2nd PC?

I thought that would cause a conflict of IP addresses, or something......

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just get a router - total cost 40,000-50,000 and after 8-10 months it'll pay for itself at 5,000 won per month.


...again, doesn't the ISP need a seperate IP address for each computer. Does that happen automatically?
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will need a twisted cable though if you are going direct to the PC. Router makes it easier and you can always add another pc at a later date.


As for sharing a keyboard and mouse. why not buy a 10,000 won keyboard and mouse and just keep it next to the old pc on the floor. Or even build a tray under your table to slot them into.

You only need a router - the IP address from your modem or the port in your wall will be handled by the router. THe router will talk to that and your two pc's.

The two pc's wil be given their own local IP address's by the router which will relay the required information out into the Internet.
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Called a KVM switch...

You can get a cheapy for under 25k.. OR install UltraVNC or Logmein.
I like the KVM option more then others for local things but if you want to control via the iNet then go for uVNC or logmein. Logmein is sweet.
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit

Wrong type of switch
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
Called a KVM switch...

You can get a cheapy for under 25k.. OR install UltraVNC or Logmein.
I like the KVM option more then others for local things but if you want to control via the iNet then go for uVNC or logmein. Logmein is sweet.


I would like an all DVI KVM switch but they are pretty expensive. They start at around 120,000 for one that can handle my monitor resolution, 1680x1050.

The D-sub KVM's are cheaper.....but I'd like to use my DVI connections for my main computer which is for movies and gaming.


I'm looking closely at going down the router....er....route Very Happy and just using a second keyboard/mouse.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Easiest way to run 2 PC's through 1 monitor? Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
eamo wrote:
I don't mind getting the Hanaro guy to come out and set up a second internet line. It's only an additional 5000 won on the bill each month. So, that could be the solution for internet.

just get a router - total cost 40,000-50,000 and after 8-10 months it'll pay for itself at 5,000 won per month.


Even less if it's a wired router. Wireless routers are 40,000.
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Just stick a 2nd network card in the main computer and share the internet connection. quick, easy, and costs about 7k won total.



That works? I just have to run an ethernet cable from main PC to network card in the 2nd PC?

I thought that would cause a conflict of IP addresses, or something......

Quote:
just get a router - total cost 40,000-50,000 and after 8-10 months it'll pay for itself at 5,000 won per month.


...again, doesn't the ISP need a seperate IP address for each computer. Does that happen automatically?


Yes it does. I connected a little wifi modem to my desktop and used it to share the Internet connection with my UMPC. The thing is that you have two network cards. One talks to the ISP and only to the ISP. So as far as the ISP knows you have one PC. The other network card talks to the other computers on your network and passes Internet access requests to the OS, which routes them onto the net. So you'll have two networks and your main PC will have two Ip addresses, one for each network it's attached to. Since the networks aren't connected to the same card, they don't 'see' each other and there's no conflicts.

I wouldn't recommend this route though. You'll need to keep your main PC on all the time to enable the connection sharing. It's easier to get a router and forget about it.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Just stick a 2nd network card in the main computer and share the internet connection. quick, easy, and costs about 7k won total.



That works? I just have to run an ethernet cable from main PC to network card in the 2nd PC?

I thought that would cause a conflict of IP addresses, or something......

Quote:
just get a router - total cost 40,000-50,000 and after 8-10 months it'll pay for itself at 5,000 won per month.


...again, doesn't the ISP need a seperate IP address for each computer. Does that happen automatically?


Stick in an extra network card and a LAN cross over cable (cross cable) to connect them. Works fine, share happily and no conflicts. No port forwarding or configuring. If you want to add more computers later, simply add a 10k won hub and bob's yer uncle.

The computer with the 2 LAN cards handles the LAN addressing and routing so the ISP only sees one computer and you only need one internet address.

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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone. I've got it straight now.
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