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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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At one of my schools last semester, I was paid a lump sum just before xmas of 250,000 won in payment for 10 CA classes.
As it transpired last semester, I only actually had to teach 3 lessons as all the others were cancelled for one reason or another. That same school is also closed tomorrow for another 'special' holiday, meaning my weekend starts at 17.30 today.
MS rock. I only wish I worked at mine FT. |
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spirit2110
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I am in a similar situation as the OP. At my public school, I "agreed" to teach an after school program 5 days/week. The thing is, they came at me with this damn asp last semester and I declined. No big deal or so I thought - I didn't need the money that bad (but obviously my school does  ) and to be honest, I really just was not that motivated, especially for a measly 20,000 won/class. Yup, I said it.
Then, this semester I am practically f*cking hounded to do it. "After school program, after school program" constantly! Drove me nuts! I said no originally because no one at my school speaks English - which means I didn't get a proper explanation of what I would be doing exactly. So, instead of struggling through the migraines that I tend to develop after an attempted conversation with the teachers at my school, I just didn't care and kept saying no.
Long story s h o r t - the education office in my city helped me to get a clear explanation (or as clear as any explanation of anything will be in Korea) of what they expected of me. Sounded fair enough and I begrudgingly agreed. Yes, public school only pays 20,000/class but I signed the contract so I can't complain now. Plus, I am stuck in this building until 5 anyway, might as well make some extra dough.
The point is, try not to blindly agree if you can help it - see if there is anyone outside your school who can help you better understand what you may be signing yourself up for.
I am always finished before 5 though... so once 5 o'clock hits - adios, I'm gone, outta there, peace! Whoever mentioned that they stay past 5 o'clock and they work in a public school - you gettin' played son!
5 PM is quitting time! |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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^ Not here.
08:30 ~ 17:30. I have my first class at 08:20 on Wednesdays too.
However, I start at 10.00 twice a week and if you could see my total weekly schedule, you'd have kittens. There's no way on earth I'm rocking my boat. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, public school only pays 20,000/class but I signed the contract so I can't complain now. Plus, I am stuck in this building until 5 anyway, might as well make some extra dough. |
Yes, we signed our contracts. But, this difference in overtime pay begs the question: why do native English teachers get paid 20,000 overtime and Korean English teachers 30,000?
My principal said, although my first contract stated 20,000 per overtime hour, he would pay me the hourly overtime rate equal to Korean teachers, which is 30,000 an hour. This year he was totally fine with my inserting language into my contract stating that "any overtime or supplementary work will be paid at the hourly rate equal to the standard rate of overtime for all teachers at School X." The standard rate is 30,000.
It's stupid that from the very beginning there's a difference in overtime pay rates between Korean English teachers and native English teachers. |
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spirit2110
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, public school only pays 20,000/class but I signed the contract so I can't complain now. Plus, I am stuck in this building until 5 anyway, might as well make some extra dough. |
Yes, we signed our contracts. But, this difference in overtime pay begs the question: why do native English teachers get paid 20,000 overtime and Korean English teachers 30,000?
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I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
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Easter Clark
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| spirit2110 wrote: |
| But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Too true. The amount of paperwork my coworkers have to do is insane! They don't even plan their classes--they can't--because they're always busy doing timetables and God-knows-what else. Many of them have to stay at the school until 9:00 at least once a week to supervise the self-study students, in addition to having to serve as cafeteria monitor, not to mention giving tests, taking attendance, and marking papers. And don't get me started on the amount of BS the homeroom teachers have to deal with!
I was told today that my coworkers envy me because I can actually put time into preparing for my classes. That's sad.
oh, and "quittin' time" here is 4:30 if you're foreign!  |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ^Do all HS finish at 16.30 including the semi-private ones? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| spirit2110 wrote: |
I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Oh yeah, and we also get job security and constant pay raises for years of service.  |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| spirit2110 wrote: |
I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Oh yeah, and we also get job security and constant pay raises for years of service. |
we do get extra perks of free housing and airfare (but extra vacation time, huh?), however we should be getting those things when we are a limited commodity here and have had to move half way around the world! also, i have a pretty good idea that the school boards know all too well how many of their fellow countrymen view foreigners, and therefore are compensating us for any trials that we may face here as well. |
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spirit2110
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| spirit2110 wrote: |
I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Oh yeah, and we also get job security and constant pay raises for years of service. |
we do get extra perks of free housing and airfare (but extra vacation time, huh?), however we should be getting those things when we are a limited commodity here and have had to move half way around the world! also, i have a pretty good idea that the school boards know all too well how many of their fellow countrymen view foreigners, and therefore are compensating us for any trials that we may face here as well. |
Yes. I have gotten MANY more days off than my Korean co-teachers. Plus, they have this Saturday morning planning bullshit that they have to deal with. Perhaps this is just at my public school. Either way, I think the grief that many foreign teachers get has a lot to do with jealousy. |
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spirit2110
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Oh yeah, and we also get job security and constant pay raises for years of service. |
Ha. Well, if you are smart about your options and choose a school whose intentions do not include financially screwing you then yes, this would be true. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| spirit2110 wrote: |
| nomad-ish wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| spirit2110 wrote: |
I didn't know this - not surprised at all though. But, the thing is we also get perks that Korean English teachers don't get. [Insert free housing, airfare, extra vacation time here] So, I'm not too bothered by the above - they can keep their 10,000 won. |
Oh yeah, and we also get job security and constant pay raises for years of service. |
we do get extra perks of free housing and airfare (but extra vacation time, huh?), however we should be getting those things when we are a limited commodity here and have had to move half way around the world! also, i have a pretty good idea that the school boards know all too well how many of their fellow countrymen view foreigners, and therefore are compensating us for any trials that we may face here as well. |
Yes. I have gotten MANY more days off than my Korean co-teachers. Plus, they have this Saturday morning planning bullshit that they have to deal with. Perhaps this is just at my public school. Either way, I think the grief that many foreign teachers get has a lot to do with jealousy. |
i want your school! i get only 14 days, no more, however... they tried to get me to take less. apparently my co-teacher has trouble counting on a calendar
my korean teachers get about 3 months off a year, of course they have to come in a couple times during the breaks to plan lessons and they work saturday mornings 2-3x a month during the year. i'd gladly work those saturday mornings if i got the same amount of vacation.
edit: i don't think it's common for FTs to have more vacation than korean teachers, maybe similar amounts, but not more. depends on the school, i guess |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I did an extra class on Wed and Fri last year--the kids were fantastic and I loved that my co-teachers stayed out of it. I asked the kids what they wanted and went from there. We played a lot of games and worked on grammar structures more. On Fri, the last 40 minutes was dedicated to playing Scrabble--the kids became obsessed with it and were really quite good.
Anyway, this year, I'm doing 4 extra classes a week so I'll be making a lot of extra money.  Very happy. |
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