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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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No but you seem to have something specifically against one one religion and one ethnic group in particular.
How else can anyone explain the selective criticism? |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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If what people mean to say is hatred of "jews" then SAY IT, but don't use another loaded red-herring term to replace what you're
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Your endless efforts in "trying to change the subject" from anti-semitism ( and we all clearly *wink wink* "know" what this means )
... into a debate about terminology is ... a red-herring if there ever was one. |
Begging the Question Ya-ta ...
BEGGING THE QUESTION
(Circular Reasoning)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
... but you seem to have something specifically against one one religion and one ethnic group in particular.
How else can anyone explain the selective criticism? |
Thank-you for mentioning this, Joo.
Define semit-ism. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Good God, here he goes again, same old topic, same old arm-waving. This board contains some of the most pathetic riff-raff ever to have graduated from a Western university and does nothing to dispel my notion that those folks in hagwons are naught but filth, by and large.
Once again, IGTG, here's the dictionary definition of antisemitism: discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews [Origin: 1880�85].
Here are the possible meanings of semite:
1. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
2. a Jew.
3. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah.
Here's the dictionary definition of anti-Americanism: opposed or hostile to the United States of America, its people, its principles, or its policies.
Here are the possible meanings of American:
1. of or pertaining to the United States of America or its inhabitants: an American citizen.
2. of or pertaining to North or South America; of the Western Hemisphere: the American continents.
3. of or pertaining to the aboriginal Indians of North and South America, usually excluding the Eskimos, regarded as being of Asian ancestry and marked generally by reddish to brownish skin, black hair, dark eyes, and prominent cheekbones.
So, to be anti-American is not to be anti-Canadian nor anti-Mexican. To be antisemitic is not to be anti-Arab, anti-anything but anti-Jewish. Why should we all overthrow the meanings of words just to satisfy fringe, unemployable, dope-smoking UFO freaks?
In short, your point is an absolute joke of a point and every time I whup your ass on this topic, you come back with more of the exact same, a memory problem likely the result of excessive alcohol and cannabis-use. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| In short, your point is an absolute joke of a point and every time I whup your ass on this topic, you come back with more of the exact same, a memory problem likely the result of excessive alcohol and cannabis-use. |
So, then Mr. Smart "Ass-Whupper", tell us now ... are all "jews" semites? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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About half of israel's population aren't directly from the mideast . But Igotthisguitar is trying to make the case they made up the expression to gain sympathy when you he must know by now that the expression was made up by someone who was anti Jewish as not something to be ashamed of but as something to be proud of.
Like "anti communist". "anti drug". "anti corruption".
It maybe a dumb term but Igotthisguitar ought to blame the one who made up the expression at the begining. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| "About" half of israel's population aren't directly from the mideast ... but ... |
Thank-you Joo for your apparent attempt at honesty.
Quite refreshing
From what i understand, Ashkenazis ( modern-day descendants of 8th century Muslim converts & non semitic ) "jews"
are believed to make up 90% of Israel's population, with Sephardic ( semites? ) = 10%.
Truth remains, attacking Palestinian Arabs is extremely "anti"-*cough*-semitic. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Ashkenazi Jews in Israel
Today, Ashkenazi Jews constitute the largest group among Jews,[4] but probably about a half of Israeli Jews (see Demographics of Israel). |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| "About" half of israel's population aren't directly from the mideast ... but ... |
Thank-you Joo for your apparent attempt at honesty.
Quite refreshing
From what i understand, Ashkenazis ( modern-day descendants of 8th century Muslim converts & non semitic ) "jews"
are believed to make up 90% of Israel's population, with Sephardic ( semites? ) = 10%.
Truth remains, attacking Palestinian Arabs is extremely "anti"-*cough*-semitic. |
This is not accurate. Again, the Khazars were not one religion per se that converted to Judaism. This is simply historically not true. Also, you state that the Sephardim (Jews who hail from North Africa, Turkey, Holland) and the Mezrahim from Iraq, Yemen, and Iran are a small minority among the Jewish population of Israel. You state that they are 10% of the population.
The Shas Party in Israel has a lot of votes, and they represent Sephardic Jews. Also, the Likud Party became quite powerful when Sephardic and Mezrahi Jews joined the party in large numbers. Between the 1940s and the 1960s alone, 1 million Sephardic Jews went to Israel. The population of Israel today is 6 million. If by some freak of nature, the Sephardis didn't increase with childbirth, they would automatically be 16% of the population not 10% as you claim. Some Israelis actually state that the Sephardim are, in fact, the largest group in Israel if you put all the Jews from Morrocco, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Tunisia together.
Igotthisguitar, I think you have this old vision of Israelis and Jews that is not accurate at this current time. The Russians may have shifted the balanced, but I am not sure by how much, but you make it seem like non-European Jews are some small minority when they are all over the place in Israel.
Igotthisguitar, I am against the abuse of human rights of the Palestinians or any people, but what is the point of sloppy, propaganda work against the Jews to make the case that most Jews in Israel are European, so they are not legitimate to live in the area. What was done to the Palestinians whether it was done by Sephardic or Ashknenazi Jews would not justify the tragedy any innocent Palestinians would have suffered. The founders of Israel were Ashkenazi, but most people will tell you Sephardim are a heavy percentage of the population, not 10%. Why make such a statement without research?
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