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aloysha



Joined: 18 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Root Canals and Gold Reply with quote

Okay so I had a root canal done on a rear molar. Not too pleasant. That is not the problem.

The problem is the language barrier. He wants to put a gold cap/crown on. Now, I like gold mind you, the greater the amount in my possession the better. But not in my mouth.

He insists that it be gold and not ceramic or any combination thereof. Any of you had a molar root canal done with a ceramic/porcelain cap/crown? Do you have problems with it cracking? Does any one have a dentist that has offered you an alternative to the gold?
Thanks.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the white fillings, and although they look nicer, I don't trust them as much. They seem to shrink away, and sometimes I've felt like they allow a little more to leak in around the sides when I eat something like candy that's really sweet.

Dentists here often are against the amalgum fillings. They say Amalgum causes cancer. The US Dental Association says that's hogwash. I just think it's because amalgum fillings are covered mostly under korean health insurance, and the Korean dentists can only get a small amount of money due to that.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had ceramic done here and in Thailand. No problems yet.
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aloysha



Joined: 18 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bassexpander- I think the situation changes once a root canal is done. It is no longer a choice between amalgam and white filling. Plus, it is a molar
which experiences considerably more stress than the front teeth. I understand what you mean though.

Lawyertood- is it on a molar?
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gold is tougher and will last longer, especially if it's on a molar.
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aloysha



Joined: 18 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, that is very true. My dentist is just explaining it as the only option. He seems reticent to offer any alternative.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceramic for 7 years, no problems at all. I had my dentist insist only gold. My solution was simple, I wanted ceramic & I found another dentist who would make it.


Needless to say the gold-only dentist wasn't pleased & swore at me when I left his dental clinic. I found another dentist who did a great job.

YOU have the final say, not your dentist. If he refuses, simply look elsewhere

Chicken
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aloysha



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you had my dentist, though he seems realllly nice when he "doesn't recommend " anything but gold Laughing

if you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost ?
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bossface



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just finished a root canal yesterday. the dentist actualy gave me lots of choices in crowns. ceramic was only 50 k more, but i went with the gold since its supposed to be stronger. it's on a molar way in the back though, so it's impossible to see. if it were on a tooth that was at all visible, i'd have gone for ceramic.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
Ceramic for 7 years, no problems at all. I had my dentist insist only gold. My solution was simple, I wanted ceramic & I found another dentist who would make it.


Needless to say the gold-only dentist wasn't pleased & swore at me when I left his dental clinic. I found another dentist who did a great job.

YOU have the final say, not your dentist. If he refuses, simply look elsewhere

Chicken


Gold crowns in Korea cost much less than porcelin in USA. And gold lasts forever. Why do you think you see all of these very old poor looking Koreans with so much gold in their teeth? My grandfather by the age of 20 had many gold fillings. He never needed to have them replaced, never needed a crown, never needed a root canal, and never needed an extraction. He died at the age of 104 with all his teeth and his fillings from his teens to 20's. I, however, have nust received 11 implants. But, because the dentest has also been my friend for years (met her husdand an MD in one of my classes) she did it not profit. I only had to pay what she payed for the materials. You guys who work in hogwans are very lucky. You have many opportunities to make friends with doctors and get VIP treatment. Although I was in a University, I also taught some non credit courses like at a hogwan that was part of the university and they were always doctors. If your student is a doctor you got it made in this country.
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ultra



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had porcelain fillings installed to replace metallic fillings.

No matter how good the porcelain is, it won't last, compared with gold.

After some years porcelain fillings will fail.

I have had most of the porcelain fillings replaced with gold.

Go for the gold. Bling is cool.
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too just had a root canal on a rear molar and my dentist speaks great English. She wouldn't even consider anything but gold and platinum. The molars do the grinding and need to be strong and as such, I went with the platinum. The 14K gold was W300,000. The 18K was W350,000. The platinum was W400,000. Go with the gold or platinum. Nobpdy looks at your back teeth anyway.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
I too just had a root canal on a rear molar and my dentist speaks great English. She wouldn't even consider anything but gold and platinum. The molars do the grinding and need to be strong and as such, I went with the platinum. The 14K gold was W300,000. The 18K was W350,000. The platinum was W400,000. Go with the gold or platinum. Nobpdy looks at your back teeth anyway.


This is what I was pointing out about price. A porcelin crown in US 1,000$
gold in Korea, 300$
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seven years with a porcelain crown? Is it a molar? I am assuming you don't have a 100% porcelain crown but a porcelain fused to metal crown, which is much stronger than a plain porcelain crown. Of course, I am not a dentist but my one and only pure porcelain crown lasted about 2 years before starting to chip...
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aloysha



Joined: 18 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, the tooth being a molar is the kicker. The ceramic cap is what im thinking of but maybe a gold-por. fused cap is the way to go. 14 k at 300,000, that sounds good, who is your dentist ?

My dentist didn't offer any choice with respect to k. He is telling me 450,000, seems like quite a bit !
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