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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: Crane Collapses In Midtown; 1 Dead - Must be an Inside Job |
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Cranes don't collapse unless someone wants them too. It is clear that someone put explosives under the crane to make it fall.
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Images: Fatal Crane Collapse
Crane Collapses In Midtown; 1 Dead
POSTED: 2:49 pm EDT March 15, 2008
UPDATED: 3:51 pm EDT March 15, 2008
NEW YORK -- A massive crane collapsed onto a neighboring building on the east side of Manhattan, killing one person and trapping several others, firefighters and sources at the scene said.
Reports from the scene say the building was under construction when the accident happened around 2 p.m. Saturday near 51st Street and Second Avenue.
The toppled crane came to rest against a nearby apartment tower, buckling its side. That building and others in the area were evacuated, fire officials said. |
This was done by Bush and the CIA , and the Post Office and the NY Mets , to faciliate the run up towards war.
About time someone doesn't just accept the "official story"
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Murderers! They staged this and killed innocent people just to cast doubt on the Truthers' righteous mission. And there is something just not right about that dust pattern. Should the dust have truly spread out like that given the trajectory of this so-called crane's collapse...? |
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wannago
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you see the angle of that crane against the building? Cranes don't fall against buildings at those angles. Some engineer needs to look at this! |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's not wind up you know who, it's already bad enough listening to the stuff posting by that particular individual. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Let's not wind up you know who, it's already bad enough listening to the stuff posting by that particular individual. |
How can a crane just fall down and kill some people? Who is going to be sued? What a way to die? Who wants that listed as a cause of death?
It reminds of that tragic ferry death in New York.
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you seem to be getting an inordinate amount of glee out of a crane crushing a few buildings downtown.
A crane crashed and people died? Ooh, ooh, I'm going to go score some points on Dave's! Zing! |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ugh. Sounds like a bad torts hypo. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Let's not wind up you know who, it's already bad enough listening to the stuff posting by that particular individual. |
How can a crane just fall down and kill some people? Who is going to be sued? What a way to die? Who wants that listed as a cause of death?
It reminds of that tragic ferry death in New York. |
I'm not sure who said anything about suing anyone, but it certainly wasn't me. The only point I was making is that we have a resident nutball who likes to post conspiracy theories and there is no reason to wind her up. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
Some of you seem to be getting an inordinate amount of glee out of a crane crushing a few buildings downtown.
A crane crashed and people died? Ooh, ooh, I'm going to go score some points on Dave's! Zing! |
well in view of what 9-11 conspiracy theorists have done it is for the public good. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Cranes can't just fall
Monday, March 17th 2008, 4:00 AM
Four people dead, three missing, 24 injured, including eight hurt seriously enough to require hospitalization - victims, it is said, of an accident that caused a 300-foot construction crane to topple in midtown Manhattan. That is absurd. That is outrageous. That is damnably unacceptable.
New York is being asked to take as a fact of life that tons of steel can be brought crashing from the sky by a relatively simple human or mechanical failure - even when all required engineering safeguards are in place.
Call it death by the rules.
Many watched that crane rise and grew frightened that it could fall. The structure seemed too tall and spindly to stand without more bracing.
One good citizen, retired contractor Bruce Silberblatt, even warned the Buildings Department the crane was not properly secured to the building under construction. An inspector reported all was according to plan.
And it was - everything was in accordance with department regulations - until someone or something went wrong as workers attached new bracing 18 stories up. So says Commissioner Patricia Lancaster.
Designed like a collar that fits around the crane's square latticework tower, the bracing connects to, and is supported by, a beam extending from a building.
For reasons yet unknown, the connection was never made. The steel broke free and plummeted, shearing stabilizing braces at the ninth and third stories. Over went the crane.
The result was a quantum leap in a death toll inflicted on the city by a wholesale breakdown in construction safety. On Wednesday, it was Louro Ortega who was buried when a wall fell on a small project in Brooklyn.
On Saturday, it was Brad Cohen, Aaron Stephens, Anthony Mazza and Wayne Bleidner who were killed and Odin Torres, Clifford Canzona and Santino Gallone who were believed left under tons of rubble.
The biggest construction boom in city history has been plagued by corner-cutting and negligence, rank incompetence and appallingly lax enforcement by the Buildings Department. Mayor Bloomberg has started an overhaul. But, as we've said over and again, far more needs to be done.
The agenda now includes complete investigations - by law enforcment authorities and by independent construction experts - into what went wrong Saturday. Among the pressing questions: Why did that collar brace fall? And why was there nothing to prevent the steel from slicing the two stabilizing braces?
The answer to the latter seems obvious: Because department regulations do not require such a basic safety feature. The solution seems just as obvious: Fix the rules so small errors cannot send a mass of steel hurtling lethally down. And hold all parties - the builder, the crane operator and city officials - strictly accountable for any and all acts of negligence. |
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