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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
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"Not media but entertainer."
What do you think the media is? C-SPAN? Anything containing opinion is not media? Nice try.
Also, he only uses that "entertainer" line when somebody calls him on his b.s., as if to deflect attention away from the fact that his ideology is both what makes him such a scumbag and so popular among dumbass Americans. |
Limbaugh doesn't investigate and report news, he comments (in his own crappy style) on news already reported. He definitely puts his own spin on things which makes him a commentator, not a reporter.
Seriously, were you home-schooled or something? |
Commentators are not part of the media? Really? What is your first language? |
Is John Daly part of the media? NO Are Leno, Letterman, O'Brien part of the media? NO Is Bill Maher part of the media? NO They are all entertainers...just like Limbaugh. Just because you don't like what Limbaugh has to say, doesn't mean he's a member of Fox News.
Get it? Good...now get over yourself. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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The blog post points to an AP article. AND the blogger involved is an voting rights expert who regularly appears on mainstream media outlets.
Oh wait, I thought you conservative boneheads were all about how the "liberal media" was biased against conservatives? So why would you trust anything the MSM has to say? So if it's not on Limblaugh, it's not the truth?
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Just what I thought. Can't rise to the challenge and continues screeching about Limbaugh (not media but entertainer). You are a left-wing liar.
Typical lefty spewage. NEXT |
I did rise to the challenge. You, like Buckley was until recently, like Bush has always been, like John McCain wants to be, are so covered up to your hairline in right wing talking points that you wouldn't know the truth even if it crawled out of your ass and slapped you in the face. That's why you're running around here trying to "defend America" against those that have a legit beef against it. |
Defend America? America does fine all by itself. It told me to tell you thanks for your concern, though.
I find it hilarious that a lefty would talk about "talking points". That's the entirety of the Left consciousness.
Now, go play in the street and let the adults talk. Shoo! |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Heal thyself first, doc. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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agentX, jkelly80, and stillnotking:
Does the Triumverate of TinkerBells play tiddlywinks when you're not posting gibberish on this forum?
That's a rhetorical question, nutbars, so no need to respond. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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agentX, jkelly80, and stillnotking:
Does the Triumverate of TinkerBells play tiddlywinks when you're not posting gibberish on this forum?
That's a rhetorical question, nutbars, so no need to respond. |
You obviously have nothing of content to contribute. |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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By the way, if anyone wants to watch Buckley get his *ss handed to him about Vietnam by a real intellectual (Noam Chomsky), here is the link.
This is what happens when a moronic flag-waving pseudo-intellectual panderer like Buckley meets someone who's actually cracked a history book. The carnage starts early on. Perrin's eulogy is worth reading too. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| You mean the guy that denied the 1975-1979 genocide in Cambodia and later changed his tune but blamed America for it? THAT Chomsky? |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: |
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stillnotkingbutaimingtobeChavezgroupie imagined:
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By the way, if anyone wants to watch Buckley get his *ss handed to him about Vietnam by a real intellectual (Noam Chomsky), here is the link.
This is what happens when a moronic flag-waving pseudo-intellectual panderer like Buckley meets someone who's actually cracked a history book. The carnage starts early on. Perrin's eulogy is worth reading too. |
As a linguist, Chomsky must be taken seriously. But he is well beyond his element when he jabbers about politics. I mean, the guy is a socialist who also fancies himself an anarchist. How ridiculous is that?
In the weblink you provide Chomsky paints the Truman Doctrine as imperialistic, with no saving graces. He even calls into question the Marshall Plan, calling it "arguable," but sees no link between them. He dichotomizes for the sake of critique but the stature of the very same is dependent on seeing our foreign policy then as two-pronged. This is astonishing to me: the former prevented at the very least the Communist takeover of both Greece and South Korea and the latter was an economic aid package which, while having long-term benefits for American free enterprise was nonetheless a humanitarian gesture.
Chomsky, ever the cynic, begs to differ but that doesn't make him correct much less score winning forensic points. All Chomsky does well is parse Buckley's comments to the point of utter distraction. I don't see strong counterargument levied against Buckley at all.
So your azz-handing comment is more hyperbole and wishful thinking. If anything, Buckley hands Chomsky his azz, e.g., when accusing the latter of not crediting the resistant movement of the Greeks in the same manner as he extols the French. And Chomsky, socialist internationale that he is, downplayed the insinuating influence of the Stalinists in Greece and instead focusing his concern on the supposed imposition of American military power.
And Chomsky's claim that the South Vietnamese made more of an effort to "colonize the North than conversely" is just preposterous. Chomsky harps on the need to confront reality but somehow conveniently misses the reality of Ho Chi Minh's interest in the South, and the Chinese and Russian intent to support that interest as far back as the 1950s.
Buckley called out Chomsky on his tactic of "starting your line of discussion at a moment that is historically useful for you." |
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idonojacs
Joined: 07 Jun 2007
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Something the fawning media failed to mention about Buckley: He was a consummate hypocrite and liar.
All reference to Buckley's involvement in prostituting New York City's best classical music station was absent from the post mortem articles.
And it was missing, as I recall, from wikipedia, though now it is back:
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WNCN
The station first signed on in 1956 as WNCN, where it was a part of a group of classical music stations in the northeastern United States, the Concert Network, programmed from WBCN, Boston and carried by affiliates in Providence, Riverhead and other markets. Later, WNCN was acquired by the National Science Network, which added daily medical news reports to the schedule since it was believed that Classical Music was the choice of the medical and dental professions. It also moved the antenna from the Hotel Pierre to the Empire State Building, increasing the station's coverage. National Science sold the station to Starr Broadcast Group in 1974. The station would retain a classical music format for many years, except for a short period during 1974-1975 when it took up a rock format with the call letters WQIV. The station's ownership history can be found at www.WNCN.org.
The WQIV era was during ownership by Starr Broadcast Group, of which William F. Buckley was Chairman. The announcement that the station was changing to rock music was read by Mr. Buckley himself and repeated frequently on the air. A group, the WNCN Listeners Guild, was formed, and petitioned the FCC to forbid the change. A last minute stay by a Supreme Court Justice delayed the scheduled changeover, but that was lifted and WNCN became WQIV. William Buckley admitted he loved Bach, but had a responsibility to Starr shareholders to maximize returns. The Listeners Guild continued its fight, and eventually forced a change back to classical music when an application was filed for the frequency by a new group head by William Benton, of the Encyclopedia Brittanica. Starr relented and in a negotiated settlement sold the station to GAF broadcasting.
The station was owned by GAF , until 1993, when Entercom would buy WNCN. |
Let me make this a little bit clearer: Buckley, in order to get permission from the FCC to purchase WNCN, promised to preserve the classical music format. He talked about his love of classical music.
When the day arrived for the transfer of ownership to the Starr Broadcast Group, the new DJ ripped the tonearm across the record playing the last piece of classical music before it was finished, and before the transfer was official. He then put on "Roll Over Beethoven."
The Starr Broadcasting era had begun. Mr. Buckley had not tried to preserve classical music on WNCN for even one minute. Try minus one minute.
And so the listeners organized as the WNCN Listeners Guild, and sued. Mr. Conservative was opposed by some of the wealthiest, most powerful people in New York, as well as some plain old music lovers, including myself. I was there. I know exactly what happened, and this is the truth. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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As a linguist, Chomsky must be taken seriously. But he is well beyond his element when he jabbers about politics |
there are a LOT of people outside the US who'd disagree with that statement. Chomsky is almost an ANTI-linguist. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Which part of that statement do they disagree with and why?
I know Chomsky is worshipped by anti-Americans worldwide; that goes without saying.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chavez has erected an altar to him in his presidential palace, adorned with laurel and poppy, of course. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Chomsy is looked down on by a great deal of semanitc linguists including Wiezerbeca for 1)Obfuscating linguistics by over use of terms that are not easy to understand(see the chomsky-bot) and 2) for arguing Transformational Grammar and Deep Structure using rules that are borne out only in English/or Indo European languages. Yet In America do question chomsky and his laws results in virtual academic suicide. |
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