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Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon.
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. Reply with quote

Sorry about the suggestive title, I have to come down to your level and if that's the only thing that's making you read my post then I'm a happy lady. I'm having a hissy fit in my pants right now, philosophizing about everything I can get my hands on.

Here are the results:

1. Confucius was a waygukin.

The idea that Koreans don't respect foreign cultures because of the Confucius way of thinking is paradoxical.

2. Being knowledgeable about culture is considered superior to living according to a culture.

A lot of westerners approach culture as a tourist attraction or entertainment and can distance themselves intellectually and historically from the conditioning of their own cultures. Originally, all cultures were not artifacts in a museum but social life in the present moment. If you think Westeners have more culture than Koreans then you are talking about culture in the past which is kind of like an old man in a wheelchair showing up at a baseball game and saying he could whup everybody's donkey in his heyday.

3. If you met your great great grandfather and had to share a day with him, you wouldn't know what to say or how to relate to him. Sure, you could exchange pleasantries, but you can do that with pretty much everybody.

4. As a human there are less degrees of separation between you and a rapist than you and Thomas Jefferson. If you're proud to be American then you must also be ashamed to be American because selective association is wishful thinking.

5. There's no escaping culture. McDonalds Happy Meals will one day be revered in Holo-Museums.

6. Culture, traditionally, has been exclusive. Museums are full of war machines, clothing that distinguishes people according to their social hierarchy etc. A culture that is inclusive loses it's identity.

7. Westeners enjoy Korea as a novelty but become frustrated when Korean culture doesn't accommodate their outlook of what a society should be.

8. Korea is still at war, psychologically.

The end. Mods, please lock this post and make it a sticky. Wink
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nicholas_chiasson



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you actually have a unified single point and can you post pics of the wrestling cos-play, over the age of consent, lolicon, truthfulchat upsetting schoolgirls with their tight white shirts unbuttoned to the waist and I'll buy you a drink if you tell me?
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicholas_chiasson wrote:
Do you actually have a unified single point and can you post pics of the wrestling cos-play, over the age of consent, lolicon, truthfulchat upsetting schoolgirls with their tight white shirts unbuttoned to the waist and I'll buy you a drink if you tell me?


There's no point to life, it's a wave. Hello!

Actually, it's funny that you should say that. Around the time when Confucius became popular in China there was another philosopher called Lao-tze. Confucious was very rigid and structured whereas Lao-tze was the complete opposite. It was fashionable with well off Chinese to practice Confucious thinking for most of their lives, but when they were too old to work or contribute to society they studied Lao-tze to get some counterbalance to their perspectives on life. Koreans don't seem to have that counteracting perspective at all and everything has a point, an objective, something to work towards......continually.

BTW, stop turning me on.
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nicholas_chiasson



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doubtless you have read of the link with k-confucism and the military reforms of some dynasty or kingdom in the distant pabst blue ribbon...er past of k-land. In which military command was justified as a confucian heirerarchy...or sorts. Who's waving now?
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicholas_chiasson wrote:
doubtless you have read of the link with k-confucism and the military reforms of some dynasty or kingdom in the distant pabst blue ribbon...er past of k-land. In which military command was justified as a confucian heirerarchy...or sorts. Who's waving now?


Sorry, I've lost you. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
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Pink Freud



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't say something nice, so now I'm not saying anything at all.

Last edited by Pink Freud on Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:24 am; edited 1 time in total
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to beat the 'Koreans torture love rival' post in terms of views (no, I'm not going to link to it) by the end of the day.

I'm betting 10,000 Won on it. Me thinks the bit about the 'ill-washed spoon' will raise a few eyebrows.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God I need to stop opening any threads on this site anymore. They let people out of university way too easily nowadays.
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
God I need to stop opening any threads on this site anymore. They let people out of university way too easily nowadays.


They didn't let me out, I escaped.

Besides, all I'm looking for is somebody to click on my link. Please tell your friends about this post or you will die a horrible death by fan. This isn't a threat, just a prophecy I will be at pains to fulfill. You have 11 hours in which to comply.

P.s. Happy Paddys day!
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it's just like my Dad always told me it was: you're a loser.
Crying or Very sad Embarassed
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teenage angst is alive and well, sad to say.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the link?

I didn't see a link?

Did someone take it?

Who has the link?
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cuckoo for kimchi



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you lost me at.....Sorry about the suggestive title
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=116739
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
nicholas_chiasson wrote:
Do you actually have a unified single point and can you post pics of the wrestling cos-play, over the age of consent, lolicon, truthfulchat upsetting schoolgirls with their tight white shirts unbuttoned to the waist and I'll buy you a drink if you tell me?


There's no point to life, it's a wave. Hello!

Actually, it's funny that you should say that. Around the time when Confucius became popular in China there was another philosopher called Lao-tze. Confucious was very rigid and structured whereas Lao-tze was the complete opposite. It was fashionable with well off Chinese to practice Confucious thinking for most of their lives, but when they were too old to work or contribute to society they studied Lao-tze to get some counterbalance to their perspectives on life. Koreans don't seem to have that counteracting perspective at all and everything has a point, an objective, something to work towards......continually.

BTW, stop turning me on.


Not true the Yangban (traditional Korean scholars for want of better description) used to study Confucian and Taoist(Lao-Tse-Laozi) thought.

Anyway confucianism is not what people on here make it out to be. It is the main reason that at one point Asian nations were so advanced while we were wallowing in the mud eating mud and drinking mud beer in Europe. Confucianism turned sour about 500 years ago when it was twisted by governments to have more control over people. This is whats usually called neo-Confucian. But although Confucius is outdated now he still has some good stuff and the basic premise is the same as the Jesus - Treat other people how you want to be treated.
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