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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Here is original the source of the picture. It was not photo shopped.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080310/photos_wl_afp/f1d8157b6d45aa4b03d9b99c4a24affc/
Case closed.
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Now I see what cbc was fannying on about. Or rather, I don't see it, as I've disabled graphics because my internet provider shapes my access after I exceed my quota. I shall look at it later when I am in the library. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080310/photos_wl_afp/f1d8157b6d45aa4b03d9b99c4a24affc/
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A woman walks past a poster featuring portraits of (L-R) Israeli military intelligence chief General Amos Yedlin, Mossad chief Meir Dagan and Defence Minister Ehud Barak during an anti-Israeli ceremony in Tehran. Iranian hardline students have offered rewards totalling a million dollars for the "execution" of the three Israeli military leaders.
(AFP/Atta ) |
Seems like AFP through Yahoo news.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Seems like AFP through Yahoo news. |
Thanks, Joo. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080310/photos_wl_afp/f1d8157b6d45aa4b03d9b99c4a24affc/
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A woman walks past a poster featuring portraits of (L-R) Israeli military intelligence chief General Amos Yedlin, Mossad chief Meir Dagan and Defence Minister Ehud Barak during an anti-Israeli ceremony in Tehran. Iranian hardline students have offered rewards totalling a million dollars for the "execution" of the three Israeli military leaders.
(AFP/Atta ) |
Seems like AFP through Yahoo news.
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So does that mean this is just a poster made at a university? |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Now I see what cbc was fannying on about. Or rather, I don't see it, as I've disabled graphics because my internet provider shapes my access after I exceed my quota. I shall look at it later when I am in the library. |
Now who's the fool? 
I will excuse you this time, and accept your excuse.
There are none so blind that will not see. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| So does that mean this is just a poster made at a university? |
Who has the authority to print such imagery and then post it in Iran? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| As one translator has pointed out |
Sorry, but that looks like back-pedalling to me. And I'm not even anti-Iran.
I'm curious. Would you use the Fox News/IGTG (morally bankrupt) disclaimer of 'We report, you decide' defense of the Holocaust seminar they had there? |
Are you suggesting I'm a holocaust denier Ya-ta boy? If that is the case, I find you absolutely disgusting. |
You seem to be a poster denier. |
OK, now I'm at another computer and your strange cryptic message makes more sense. You're talking about this then:
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POSTER IN IRAN
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I think I assumed Joo was talking about a poster in Iran as in a person posting on the net. What that had to do with Juan Cole I couldn't fathom.
Anyway, what is the significance of the poster? If it is commissioned or properly sanctioned by the president it means something. If it is commissioned by the supreme leader, or at least has his blessing, it really means something. Until I'm shown irrefutable evidence of such a connection, it means sweet FA. First, is it real? Second, if it is, who made the poster. Some insignificant branch of some political organisation trying to score brownie points with their community leaders, perhaps? Religious students titilated by a translation that 'shook the world?'
I remember how some of my Korean uni students would get visibly aroused by fighting talk against Japan or the US. The posters put up around the campus were not sanctioned or commisioned by the government, however.
It doesn't mean anything, cbc, until you can show me that these posters have been distributed by the highest political echelons. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Iran has not acted on Israel and can not. |
Come on. And even the most aggressive American Cuba policies never denied that Cuba should exist as a nation-state.
You can oppose Israel and its policies without going down this road... |
Now, what do you mean by 'you?' Do you mean you as in 'one' and perhaps even refering to the president by it, or are you addressing me directly?
If the latter, what road is 'this road?' Is it the road of questioning a load of hysterical hype and propaganda intended to persuade me, as a member of the general electorate, that consenting to my government colluding in another illadvised military misadventure in the Middle East is the only the way to save the planet from utter tyranny? Is so, I'll continue down this road... |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| May I ask you: would you have supported a strike on Iran, and do you think it would have come with no fallout? |
How timely Mithridates' post directly above is.
The answer to your question, BB, is I'm not sure. Basically, if I invented a technology capable of making the Iranian senial theocrats suddenly, spontaneously, simultaneously cease to exist, I'd use it without a second's hesitation and with no emotion, remorse or regret. I don't know about war, but my concluding remarks in this thread were very good. |
If you could produce such a magical technology, I would be all for such an entreprise. And if you could also use the technology to ship the Iranian 'morality police' off to the moon, I'd be even more for it. If you could include all the rest of the world's religious nutters (Osama's disciples, murderous Indian Hindus, crazed religious jewish settlers and the loony Christian right in the US) as passengers on that lunar trip, I'd be further delighted. Unfortunately, it seems the most effective way for these things to be resolved is by leaving it to the people affected. We only have to look at Iraq to see what can happen when you try to bring about a 'regime change' externally. |
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Big_Bird
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Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I find Hitchens generally unreliable. I asked Joo whether he had more information on the poster and the photograph's specific origins. Why should we take anything Hitchens, or any other journalist, for that matter, publishes at face-value? |
Well, I have to agree with you about Hitchens. I saw Joo's post had a Hitchen's article, and I scrolled down pronto... |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Now I see what cbc was fannying on about. Or rather, I don't see it, as I've disabled graphics because my internet provider shapes my access after I exceed my quota. I shall look at it later when I am in the library. |
Now who's the fool?
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Oh touche!  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
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| I find Hitchens generally unreliable. I asked Joo whether he had more information on the poster and the photograph's specific origins. Why should we take anything Hitchens, or any other journalist, for that matter, publishes at face-value? |
Well, I have to agree with you about Hitchens. I saw Joo's post had a Hitchen's article, and I scrolled down pronto... |
Hitchens is much more reliable than Juan Cole. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Now I see what cbc was fannying on about. Or rather, I don't see it, as I've disabled graphics because my internet provider shapes my access after I exceed my quota. I shall look at it later when I am in the library. |
Now who's the fool?
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Oh touche! |
See now wasn't that fun?
Interesting interpretation of Poster I must say.
Maybe we should have said placard the English to
English translator isn't working well today.
I may have been wearing my asshat certainly taking
adbantage of the context. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
| You still ignore the poster. |
People keep bringing this poster up. No offense, Joo. But I think that poster has Photoshop written all over it. Just my suspicion, especially all the English-langauge stuff and the conveniently-placed Iranian woman perhaps meant to make it look more authentic.
What do you have on that poster and that photograph's origins and how it got to us? |
Now I see what cbc was fannying on about. Or rather, I don't see it, as I've disabled graphics because my internet provider shapes my access after I exceed my quota. I shall look at it later when I am in the library. |
Now who's the fool?
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Oh touche! |
See now wasn't that fun?
Interesting interpretation of Poster I must say.
Maybe we should have said placard the English to
English translator isn't working well today.
I may have been wearing my asshat certainly taking
adbantage of the context. |
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