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Easter: Christian or Pagan?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Easter: Christian or Pagan? Reply with quote

http://www.truthbeknown.com/easter.htm
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The obvious answer is that Easter originated as a Pagan celebration and the Christian faith adopted it also.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
The obvious answer is that Easter originated as a Pagan celebration and the Christian faith adopted it also.


What makes it so obvious?

Plz explain.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would word my response differently than CentralCali, but along the same line.

The idea that spring and rebirth are associated should not be all that shocking to anyone.

Koreans are certainly not Irish, but over the last 14 years I have seen a considerable growth in interest among Koreans about both Halloween and St. Patrick's Day. If one group borrows something from another group, what's the worry?

The real question, IGTG, is what is your motivation for starting this thread?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
The obvious answer is that Easter originated as a Pagan celebration and the Christian faith adopted it also.


What makes it so obvious?

Plz explain.


To people who are not WONJCT like you, the simple fact that it was a celebration associated with a religion that existed prior to Christianity's emergence makes it a Pagan festival. Also the simple fact that it is currently--and has been for quite some time now--a festival celebrated by very many Christian denominations makes it a Christian festival.

Now, go learn some Logic.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
The real question, IGTG, is what is your motivation for starting this thread?


Don't you know that's completely irrelevant?

Surely you do.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you say on another thread that you were always frank and candid? Perhaps you are confused about the difference between the meanings of 'always' and 'rarely'.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Didn't you say on another thread that you were always frank and candid?

Perhaps you are confused about the difference between the meanings of 'always' and 'rarely'.


My motivation?

Who wants to know?

Good to know someone is keeping such "close tabs" on every last little thing posted by IGTG.

You should get together with Joo some time Wink
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Christian Easter was strategically placed to overshadow the older pagan celebration.

The same goes for Christmas. Covers a winter solstice celebration. Someone did calcualtions and had Jesus's birthday in April, I believe.

I thought this was pretty common knowledge.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the phoenicians had a celebration spelled something like aestarte long before jesus was in the manger.

in the phoenician version, the yearly god died and was resurrected while the permanent god stood watch.

pretty much same name, same event but from the people just over the hill. must be a coincidence. Wink
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christmas was adopted by the christians to correspond with pagan festivals at that time. Easter is tied to the Jewish passover. So it's not like Christmas where the Catholic church just conjured Dec 25 into existence.

Passover's timing is rather suspicious. It's supposed to be, of course, when the angel of death didn't kill jewish babies but happily killed innocent non-jewish babies. Remember this is a god of love and peace. Anyway, most cultures have spring rebirth festivals. So it would be pretty easy to get European pagans to adopt the Christian easter. Like Christmas, they're already used to a party.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All rituals are pagan.

Even the virgin birth, the great flood and lamb sacrifice are pagan.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Didn't you say on another thread that you were always frank and candid? Perhaps you are confused about the difference between the meanings of 'always' and 'rarely'.


That would be Frank and Earnest two of his many personalities.
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ED209



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just glad that God sent his only Easter bunny to lay a chocolate egg which saved us from working on a Friday.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Religions don't just start from scratch. They build on what people already have. Christianity was influenced by Greek philosophy, according to many, and, of course, Judaism. Many things found in Buddhist talks can be found in the Hindu book called the Bhagavad Gita.
What's the surprise there?
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