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[cbclark4]

So let's ask the question:

Should a MOD lock a thread that is racially charged, a few months old
with several hundred responses and thousands of views, because it
deteriorates into a slug fest between two people in violent agreement with
each other?

Should this be a MOD decision made solely by one MOD or several?

Should the MOD have received at least one complaint or many?

Also can we define Newbie and standardize the spelling?
I've seen Newbie, Newby, Noobie, Nooby are there any others?
Is that something the MODs can do?

[Enrico Palazzo]

[arjuna]

I hope the MODs do not pretend (to themselves) that they are fair and impartial. If IGTG deserved to take a vacation, several others deserved it, too. I am not on anyone's side--although from your narrow perspectives I might appear to be siding with this or that poster or position.

Let me put it clearly for you to see what you are avoiding: IGTG appears to be breaking the forum guidelines more because you do not like what he says than because you do not like how he says what he says.

Let me state once again that I have no interest in being for or against any one poster or a group of posters. I tried to take this forum seriously for a while. But the more I try, the more I have to laugh. Whatever you may think yourselves to be or whatever you may profess to aspire to be, you are all prisoners of the lie that is human civilization, especially if you have pretensions to spirituality. Keep on trying as you do, but you would make better progress if you stopped pretending to be what you are not.

[Gopher]

"The lie that is human civilization." What a bitter thing to say. No one is impartial, especially not in a forum that discusses politics. But Enrico Palazzo is approaching this problem -- and it is a problem -- patiently and judiciously. Not all moderators have done so in the past, and I think we should recognize this and work with him.

That being said, Igotthisguitar probably suffers a mental disorder. I do not mean this to attack or undermine her political views. But she frequently spams the board. Her posts dwell on extreme paranoia (she believes that other posters here work for "the govt," for example, and come here merely to sow disinformation and to confuse) and often feature openly racist -- that is, antisemitic -- commentary. Other posters preach hate towards Arabs and Islam from time to time. The questions remain whether and where to draw lines as far as content goes.

Further, most posters lack the vocabulary to exchange political views civilly. (Enter the prosecutorial Nowhere Man, my personal stalker here, with a long list of my previous positions all the way back to kindergarten, with references to years-old pms other posters have sent him, designed to "expose" me and undermine all that I say without addressing the point substantively. So be it.) Should moderators challenge them to rephrase their commentary when appropriate? When would it be appropriate?

I think, unlike other moderators in the past, some of whom have participated in and contributed to the incivility, Enrico Palazzo is asking these questions rather than simply moving in to strong-arm everyone. I, for one, support this.

[The Bobster]

[The Bobster]

Oh, yeah, one more thing.

When someone has an avatar that's too wide, it pushes the text far far over to the right. When that happens a moderator should contact the person and ask them to make it narrower. Gets annoying to have to keep pushing the bar at the bottom of the screen to read everyone else's posts.

Same goes for posting superlong URLs instead of using the posting tools properly.

[Gopher]

[The Bobster]

[Gopher]

[Adventurer]

[The Bobster]

Hope this helps.

First, type the words that are going to be the link. LIke this:

The Bobster.

If it's an article from a website, it might be the title, or it could just be some words inside of the text you had already typed yourself. In either case, highlight them, then click on the tool that says "URL." Now, it will look like this:

[url]The Bobster.[/url]

The next part is just a little tricky, but I could figure it out and so can you. Go to the website you are linking to, which you have in a separate window. Go to the URL bar at the top of that page, right-click so that it all turns blue, then hit the choice on the menu that appears that says < C > for copy.

Now come back to this page, and it's the tricky part I mentioned: carefully place the cursor directly in between the letter < l > in the initial bracket that contains "[url]" and then type the symbol for equal sign < = >. Now, it should look like this.:

[url=]The Bobster[/url]

You already have the website URL stored in your mouse's short-term memory, so right there in that space after the equal sign hit control + V to clipboard it in. Now, on your screen, it looks like this (except that I inserted a space between the two < / > to illustrate things):

[url=http:/ /forums.eslcafe.com/korea/search.php?search_author=The+Bobster]The Bobster.[/url]

When you've gotten this far, you can check it by hitting the < Preview > button. You should see this:

The Bobster

And this is what you wanted, most likely. There may be easier ways to do it, but it's worked for me, and if you do it a couple of times you can do it faster so it's not so tedious. Happy posting! And more economical linking!

[igotthisguitar]

Hi Gopher ...

i agree Erico is trying to mediate in a seemingly professional manner, and from what i can gather, doing a reasonably decent job.

He has made two specific requests to which IGTG has reluctantly agreed to self-censorship.

Speaking from experience i know that the ref hardly ever has it easy.

Yes, i agree Erico has thus far proved himeself to be among one of the BEST, most responsive, pro-active and reasonable mods to grace Dave's ESL over the past FIVE, oftime tumultuous ( hey ... it's politics & CE, the world is facing some pretty major issues, how genuinely "civil" do you expect it to be? ) years.

[cbclark4]

[Enrico Palazzo]

It will necessary to post two posts to get something across coherently.

Gopher, I appreciate your contribution to this thread. However, please refrain from labeling a poster whether IGTG or another poster as mentally ill. We are not psychologists on this forum. It does not seem civil to do so. Even if what was said by you is true, IGTG has feelings regardless of how he or she has conducted him or herself on this forum.
Probably, it was not your intention to come off that way, I will assume.
The mods can only do their best, by being civil to other members, each other, and demand some consistency. Your comments were looked at for drafting recommendations.

Bobster, your posts were interesting. Your comments were quite helpful.
They will probably be included in the recommendations to be posted with some cleaning up tomorrow morning. Important things will be placed in bold.

Clark, your comments were also looked at. The board is not a free speech forum for spam, bigotry and the like, but political diversity must be protected, encouraged. A balance must be sought.

Now, to look at IGTG's long posts. It would be addressed in this post if it weren't very long.

Thank you, Grazie....

[Enrico Palazzo]