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Jury Duty US - Can't Postpone Any Suggestions?
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did jury duty last fall in between working in Japan and now Djibouti. They had been after me for a few years, but I kept showing them my government orders and they would postpone it. If I remember correctly, one of the exemptions was that you didn't live in the jurisdiction anymore. If you can prove that you have a different residence, they might remove your name from the list. Of course, since you're temporarily assigned with a multinational, you may still be considered a resident of your area. Your employer should be able to help you with this.

Sadebugo
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="uberscheisse"]
ibu wrote:
uberscheisse wrote:
just say you hate niggers and chinks in your prelim. interview.


wow... just wow


Heck, I caught that as a joke right off the bat.

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this is not to say i would even use these words in polite company, but the guy wants to get out of jury duty, why not present himself as the most abnormally biased person he possibly can?


Responsible citizenship?

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it'd take less than 2 minutes.


When I reported for jury duty both times I was called, it was an all-day event. If you did not get selected for one jury, you were still in the candidate pool for another. At the end of the day, you got your token payment and were exempted from jury duty in that jurisdiction for a certain number of months (I don't recall the number).
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was this a serious OP or intended to ignite a flaming sock war?

I have never served jury duty. I've never even seen a summons. They may have sent one, but my personal agent would have called and told them I was out of the country. (I'll check with her.) End of story.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very easy folks, i got a summons mailed to my fathers place in Jan, i got the information from him was able to log into a website, answered a few questions about my residency and they determined I was a nonresident and not eligible for jury duty.

worst case is you send them a letter with a copy of your arc or some proof you live overseas and that'll be that
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my entire life, I was only summoned for jury duty once and was exempted due to non-residence. My son, who will be 21 this summer, has already been summoned twice and exempted both times due to non-residence; in his case, there was a downloadable form we filled out and faxed to the county clerk's office in our home state--why they didn't have that on file the second time I have no idea.
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bgreenster



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: too far from the beach

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been called in maybe 3 times now for jury duty (including a grand jury- I kind of wanted to do that one!) in the past year and a half... My mom has dealt with it in the past (since my US address is my parent's house) and she just calls up the number on the summons and tells them I'm out of the country. Now that I think about it, it seems too simple, but they didn't give her a hard time, and they just put my name back into the pool for a later summons.

I'm confused how this is really an issue for you- did someone actually tell you there was no way to get out of it, even after hearing that you live abroad? I've never heard of that happening; most people have the same experience I did.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your comments.

I hail from Los Angeles county and dialed the toll free jury service hotline. Apparently I've exhausted all my postponement privileges and will have to appear before a Judge to request another postponement???

Something ain't right ...
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only read the OP post.

There is a 80% chance that not showing up for jury duty will result in no action taken by any authorities. If there is a hard ass judge, there can be problems.

All you have to do to avoid problems, is send a letter via Fed-Ex to the court you are being asked to appear at with a letter explaining your current circumstances. The court will understand.

I worked in law for a long time- you can trust this advice. PM if you have any questions...
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
igotthisguitar wrote:
IGNORE THAT *bleep*!

Creepy US gov't shouldn't even have your info ( esp. while living overseas).


You don't think they should have a list of citizens?


No gov't should be tracking down its expats for jury duty.

It's absurd.

As stated, there are a couple hundred million OTHER people actually living state-side who are fully capable of serving in this capacity.

Metta.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Something ain't right ...


Write a short note to the Clerk of Courts or whatever the position is called in California, explain the situation: your legal residence is LA County but your actual place of work/residence is South Korea. Ask them to remove you from the jury list.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Thanks for all your comments.

I hail from Los Angeles county and dialed the toll free jury service hotline. Apparently I've exhausted all my postponement privileges and will have to appear before a Judge to request another postponement???

Something ain't right ...


yeah, the bozos in la cant grasp that people other than military can live outside the us for long periods of time. i kind of had a hard time when i actually called travis county texas in jan while i was there, however when i filled out the online questionaire i had no problems. send them a letter with a photocopy of your contract, arc etc or heck swear an affidavit at the us embassy saying you are resident of korea.

i wouldnt worry that you dont show up, i kind of doubt it'll be flagged the next time you enter the us or you get stopped by the la police for a broken taillight
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"ve been summoned only once and wrote a letter to the court clerk stating that I was currently out of the country and have been for the past 11 years. I also stated that I had no intentions to return just in case they tried to call me up again.

I wasn't aware that you could run out of postponements! Shocked Can you move your residence to a different county? state?
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Canada Belongs to the Queen of England! Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
I am curious how you can be called for Jury Duty when out of the country? That is a new one for me, but hey your American...and that judicial system is pretty messed up IMO.


At least the US is a country "of the People, by the People and for the People." In the American legal world it's all about "The People vs such-and-such accused."

In your country of Canada, a colony of the United Kingdom, it's all about the United Kingdom's Monarch. In your legal world it's all about "The Crown vs such-and-such accused."

The Queen of England is your ruler. She has total control over your country. She has the power to dismiss your national government, just like she did with Australia, another one of her colonies, in 1975.

In 1975 the Queen dimissed the democratically elected Australian Parliment.

That was her right. Australians where angry as hell but could do nothing about it.

To learn about this totally anti-democratic historical event see:

1) "Dimissed!" : http://www.oph.gov.au/dismissed/default.htm

"For many Australians the day of the dismissal is remembered as a moment of unique drama in their lives. To them, it shaped their political attitudes and changed their understanding of how the political system works in Australia."

2) Wikipedia's "Australian constitutional crisis of 1975" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_constitutional_crisis_of_1975

The Crown did it to Australia and she can do it to Canada.

And regardless of how Canadians may feel about that fact, as British subjects, it is not their decision to make.

The Monach is not accountable to Canada.

Canadians are not the Monarch's constituants. Canadians did not vote for the Monarch.

Instead, the Monarch is the ruler of Canadians.

And Canadians are the Monarch's subjects.

So Canadians own their allegiance, loyalty and life to the Monarch.

The Monarch is their ruler. Canadians are the Monarch's subjects.

Quote:
"The Crown is an integral part of a practical form of government, and as such it has a direct and substantive part to play in the lives of all Canadians.�
�David E. Smith, The Invisible Crown, 1995


Source of that quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND!

Cool
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo Gecko!

The British Crown has no role in impacting or shaping Ameri*cough*an affairs?

Tell us then e.g. who owns the Federal Reserve?

Oh yes, this reminds me ... wasn't the Queen in the US recently to mark the 300th anniversary of the founding of Jamestown?

Waving so "nicely" with her cousin ( Governor Bush ) from the White House balcony.



All coincidence of course Rolling Eyes


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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
That is a new one for me, but hey your American...and that judicial system is pretty messed up IMO.


The US legal system is no more messed up than any other Western legal system. Please, you fucking pleb, inform me of what perfect nation YOU hail from, so I can spend 5 minutes and link you 50 examples of how messed up it is.

Oh, and grats on not knowing the difference between your/you're... ESL Teachers Sparkling!


I am from Canada. I would really enjoy you trying to point out how the US legal system is as messed up as Canada.

A few things to consider:

We don't do frivolous lawsuits like suing McDonald's because their coffee is too hot.
We don't let a guy go free on a criminal procedure, and then turn around and sue for civil liability aka OJ Simpson
We don't put as many people per capita into prison because our laws aren't as unreasonable. 3 strike laws are stupid when your 3rd strike can be something like stealing a pack of gum.

There are more, but perhaps you get the drift.

I know the difference between your/you're - it is a message board. People make mistakes when they type fast and want to get down their ideas.

If I was as anal retentive as you are, I would scan through all your previous posts and look for grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors.
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