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| What is your highest level of education? |
| B.A./B.S. |
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60% |
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| M.A./M.S./MBA |
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22% |
[ 8 ] |
| Ph.D./MD/JD |
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17% |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
I have a First Class degree in Philosophy and History and am also qualified to teach English to native speakers. How much clearer do you want it? |
If you're so smart, why didn't you see the option specifically for you? It was marked B.A./B.S.
Adding salt and pepper to chicken noodle soup doesn't change it from chicken noodle soup. |
On a message board full of teachers, it just might've been an idea to have an option for those with superior teaching credentials to the otherwise unemployable hagwon jockey doing a McJob for a Korean pittance. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| ...it just might've been an idea to have an option for those with...[professional] teaching credentials. |
I agree. This is a real distinction, especially in South Korea. Another oversight. Mea culpa. However, for this poll's purposes, please just call it B.A./B.S. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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So, did you go to Teacher's College or do you just consider yourself to be qualified to teach English?
(Don't worry... You can lie and most people won't know it...) |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
So, did you go to Teacher's College?
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Yes, in 2004/5. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Pligganease wrote: |
So, did you go to Teacher's College?
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Yes, in 2004/5. |
Where? What country? |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| So, you have a teaching certificate. Right? You said "superior teaching credentials," but you mean teaching certificate. Is that correct? |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Pligganease wrote: |
So, did you go to Teacher's College?
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Yes, in 2004/5. |
Where? What country? |
What business is it of yours?
| Pligganease wrote: |
| So, you have a teaching certificate. Right? You said "superior teaching credentials," but you mean teaching certificate. Is that correct? |
I have a TEFL cert (CELTA) also, but that's irrlevant here. You know like how most hagwon cowboys can be hagwon cowboys but are not qualified to teach English to native speakers in public or private schools in the US/Canada/UK/where ever? I'm not one of those folks.
Duly noted (and voted), Gopher. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| What I mean is that you say you have "superior teaching credentials," but your teaching credentials aren't superior. They're normal teaching credentials, right? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you study under Father Guido Sarducci, I guarantee you will achieve "superior education..." 
The Padre |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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This is ridiculous. Let's revisit a previous assertion:
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| it just might've been an idea to have an option for those with superior teaching credentials to the otherwise unemployable hagwon jockey doing a McJob for a Korean pittance |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| What I mean is that you say you have "superior teaching credentials," but your teaching credentials aren't superior. They're normal teaching credentials, right? |
Right. But that wasn't what was claimed. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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But what you meant was...
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| it just might've been an idea to have an option for those with teaching credentials to the otherwise unemployable hagwon jockey doing a McJob for a Korean pittance |
Right? |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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What's with this "teacher's certificate"?
How does it differ from a B.Ed? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Every lawyer I know advises everyone who asks not to attend law school unless they feel passionate about practicing law. This is good advice. And I think that if one feels passionate about practicing law then law school and a legal career is the place for them.
I know a woman who graduated law school and works for a judge as his primary researcher. An easy, comfortable, Mon. through Fri. middle-class job, she says, no having to defend Burger King for selling contaminated meat to children, she gets to research interesting cases every day, and she has the time and freedom to run from downtown San Diego through Seaport Village and past the marina every day at lunch. What is wrong with that? |
Yeah, nothing wrong with it, and agree that one needs to feel passionate about practicing law. My best friend is an assistant DA here in CA and is the only person I know that is around my age and loves the job that he has. On the other hand, some of the most miserable people that I know are a few of his friends from law school. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
But what you meant was...
| You wrote: |
| it just might've been an idea to have an option for those with teaching credentials to the otherwise unemployable hagwon jockey doing a McJob for a Korean pittance |
Right? |
No, because that statement doesn't make sense.
| endo wrote: |
What's with this "teacher's certificate"?
How does it differ from a B.Ed? |
For starters, the word "certificate" doesn't appear in any of my posts in this context, but why not research how one becomes a teacher in your country (Canada, right?)? How can math teachers become math teachers? How can science teachers become science teachers? How can English teachers become English teachers?
It should be perfectly self-evident that a B.Ed isn't the only way. People get their degrees first and get qualified teacher status afterwards. Research it. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
What's with this "teacher's certificate"?
How does it differ from a B.Ed? |
The difference is that you get a 4 year degree and then you study for another year to get your teaching certificate, so you, in reality, have 5 years of study. That's different than what you have with someone with a B.Ed. Hey, where is the category (I am an illegal teacher with a high school diploma (just kidding!!!!). |
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