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Agent0range

Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: Tell me about your great Uni job. |
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No, seriously. I'm finishing my Master's (Liberal Arts) in August and thinking about spending a year in Korea to teach, relax, and maybe write. I plan on taking both my cat and my wife ( ) and I want to make sure i have plenty of free time to explore, have fun, and learn Korean. I care more about the time-off than high pay and I don't want to live in expensive, busy places.
From what i've read, a uni job would be the best route for me. So, tell me, is it all that it is cracked up to be? What areas should I be checking out, and how do I find a decent spot at a place that won't treat me like garbage?
Please note that I do have a year of experience teaching in a hagwon-style Korean-run learning center here in the States. My Korean boss here would probably read over any contracts for me before I signed them or even write letters in Korean on my behalf. He and I get along pretty well. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Is your wallet as big as your avatar?
Finding suitable housing for the wife and pussy may be your biggest challenge. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Coming from your home country and landing a uni job will be tough thing for you to do unless you have contacts in the uni already. Unless you are going to fly over here for your own dime for the interview and can offer something more than the other people with MAs already in Korea, you may find yourself disappointed. Lots of people want uni jobs, lots of them have MAs and lots of them are already here, able to get them face to face and through contacts. |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
Coming from your home country and landing a uni job will be tough thing for you to do unless you have contacts in the uni already. Unless you are going to fly over here for your own dime for the interview and can offer something more than the other people with MAs already in Korea, you may find yourself disappointed. Lots of people want uni jobs, lots of them have MAs and lots of them are already here, able to get them face to face and through contacts. |
Exactly right.
However, I do foresee a drop in the supply of qualified uni teachers with the new rules for E-2's, so there may be more openings for the fall '08 semester... There's surely going to be a certain percentage of people already here who would like to stay, but who won't meet the CRC/Med-check requirements. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Any overseas applications to our uni go directly into the trash.
I've seen many highly-qualified candidates ignored strictly on the basis that they are not here. |
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mj roach
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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does your k/boss have connections/contacts at a k/uni.?
have you asked?
also network at your uni. there. try (if you haven't) to meet a/some k/profs or grad students.
getting a position from there can be done...but not without connections.
'it's not what you know...it's who you know.' |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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How does one make uni contacts? I'm sure this sounds like a ridiculous question, but I asked it just the same. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: |
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jkelly80 wrote: |
How does one make uni contacts? I'm sure this sounds like a ridiculous question, but I asked it just the same. |
The best way is to hang out in bars that foreign uni teachers frequent. Making friends with current teachers is probably the best way to land a uni job. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: |
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ajuma wrote: |
jkelly80 wrote: |
How does one make uni contacts? I'm sure this sounds like a ridiculous question, but I asked it just the same. |
The best way is to hang out in bars that foreign uni teachers frequent. Making friends with current teachers is probably the best way to land a uni job. |
And make sure you bring a sign to the bar that says, Free Hugs for Uni Teachers. |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: |
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ajuma wrote: |
jkelly80 wrote: |
How does one make uni contacts? I'm sure this sounds like a ridiculous question, but I asked it just the same. |
The best way is to hang out in bars that foreign uni teachers frequent. Making friends with current teachers is probably the best way to land a uni job. |
I wouldn't be so lucky as to have a "Seoul uni teacher bar favorites" internet page that I could peruse, would I? |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Watch the "Off-Topic" or "General" forums for Dave's gatherings.
For the OP: Yeah, it's pretty tough to get a uni job without being in Korea. mj roach got it right...network with your Korean contacts at your uni, or friends you may have in Korea. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Generally, being in country does make a difference but it is not impossible to get a job while back home but you really need to have very strong qualifications and alot of luck!
You can take this for what it is worth but if you are persistant and interview well (dress nicely, speak clearly and professionally etc...) you will get a uni job.
But, the tough part is getting a "good" uni job. There is probably at least one person here who will say yeah I got the perfect uni job the first time I applied and I only have a BA but generally getting a good uni job is very hard to get. You might even have to start out at a bad one and work your way into a good one. And, every year there are fewer and fewer "good" uni jobs.
Best of luck though! |
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Agent0range

Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the great comments. I might have to reevaluate my options at this point.
Is it possible to get a hagwon or grade school (public or private) job that offers anywhere near the amount of paid vacation that a Uni job offers? |
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Shredd

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: Pusan, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Since you said you don't want to be in the city (I'm paraphrasing) you might look into GEPIK. It would be out in the country and I think the vacation promised is near 10 weeks????? Also you get paid more to be outside of the city and with your masters and experience you might already be on a higher payscale. Any GEPIK teachers want to verify that? |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Agent0range wrote: |
Thanks for all the great comments. I might have to reevaluate my options at this point.
Is it possible to get a hagwon or grade school (public or private) job that offers anywhere near the amount of paid vacation that a Uni job offers? |
It's impossible to get a hagwon job with 3-5 months of vacation like some universities offer. You'd be better off looking for a public school job, probably in the countryside, though the total vacation time will vary from school to school. I'll say that I'm quite pleased with the amount of vacation I will get this year, though last year I got the standard 14 days offered by GEPIK. If you do go the public school route you may want to negotiate the vacation time before you sign the contract. |
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