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curtiscurtis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Laws for South Korea Immigration Reply with quote

Well I did it. I told my director to shove the job up his ass and now he's being SUPER DUPER nice to me. However I gave him my 40 days notice...

What I want to know does any one know the laws on leaving the country after I quit my job? Is there a website that has all this information? What about my medical insurance after I quit my job do I still have that? I want to hang out in Korea a bit after I quit my job, maybe go to Seoul and shill around for a bit of somffin! If I get a letter of release would that give me more time??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Laws for South Korea Immigration Reply with quote

curtiscurtis wrote:
Well I did it. I told my director to shove the job up his ass and now he's being SUPER DUPER nice to me. However I gave him my 40 days notice...

What I want to know does any one know the laws on leaving the country after I quit my job? Is there a website that has all this information? What about my medical insurance after I quit my job do I still have that? I want to hang out in Korea a bit after I quit my job, maybe go to Seoul and shill around for a bit of somffin! If I get a letter of release would that give me more time??


IF you are quitting early you have 14 days from your last day of work until you must legally be out of the country. If you stay beyond that you risk getting caught in an overstay position.

Your medical insurance will cover you until the last day of the last month of employment. (if you quit on the 15th you are covered until the 30th. IF you quit on the 29th you are still covered until the 30th).

A LOR won't make any difference to either of those 2 circumstances.
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curtiscurtis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Laws for South Korea Immigration Reply with quote

valkyrian2 wrote:
curtiscurtis wrote:
Well I did it. I told my director to shove the job up his ass and now he's being SUPER DUPER nice to me. However I gave him my 40 days notice...

What I want to know does any one know the laws on leaving the country after I quit my job? Is there a website that has all this information? What about my medical insurance after I quit my job do I still have that? I want to hang out in Korea a bit after I quit my job, maybe go to Seoul and shill around for a bit of somffin! If I get a letter of release would that give me more time??


IF you are quitting early you have 14 days from your last day of work until you must legally be out of the country. If you stay beyond that you risk getting caught in an overstay position.

Your medical insurance will cover you until the last day of the last month of employment. (if you quit on the 15th you are covered until the 30th. IF you quit on the 29th you are still covered until the 30th).

A LOR won't make any difference to either of those 2 circumstances.


That's perfect frankly!
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curtiscurtis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the penalty for being caught in an overstay?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can get a letter of release, you may just want to give immigration a call. Generally, they are pretty cool about giving extensions if you go about it the right way. Your situation may be a little more tricky since you are not actually at the end of your original period of stay though. So, just call immigration and explain your situation.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have 14 days from the last day of work to leave the country if you get a departure order from immigrations. They usually do that so you can pay off your debts and cancel all utility services and make final flight arrangements if you haven't done so. But to get that departure order, both you and a representative from your school have to go to immigrations to officially cancel the visa.

Usually, your boss would go with you to immigrations to cancel the visa to free up their foreign workers' slot so another worker can replace you (each school is alotted a certain number of foreigners they can legally employ, which depends on the size and financial situation at the school- which was inspired by the 3D workers model and to hire another foreigner, they need to open that slot.)

If you go to immigrations with a flight ticket that is scheduled alittle longer than the usually extention time (usually you have to tell them that the only available flight for you was only on that time--and it should be for about 2-3 days longer, don't overdo it), they will work with you and possibly (not definitely) give you until your flight date to stay in Korea.

If you really want to chill in Korea for an extended period of time, go down to the Philippines or to Thailand for a weekend or so, and depending on which nation you're from, you can get an entry stamp that will last you anywhere from 30 days to 6 months. Again, that depends on where you're from.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: Laws for South Korea Immigration Reply with quote

[quote="valkyrian2"][quote="curtiscurtis"]Well I did it. I told my director to shove the job up his ass and now he's being SUPER DUPER nice to me. However I gave him my 40 days notice...

What I want to know does any one know the laws on leaving the country after I quit my job? Is there a website that has all this information? What about my medical insurance after I quit my job do I still have that? I want to hang out in Korea a bit after I quit my job, maybe go to Seoul and shill around for a bit of somffin! If I get a letter of release would that give me more time??[/quote]

IF you are quitting early you have 14 days from your last day of work until you must legally be out of the country. If you stay beyond that you risk getting caught in an overstay position.

Your medical insurance will cover you until the last day of the last month of employment. (if you quit on the 15th you are covered until the 30th. IF you quit on the 29th you are still covered until the 30th).

A LOR won't make any difference to either of those 2 circumstances.[/quote]

Are you sure it's 14 days??? When I did it last about 7 months ago it was 30 days...
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bondjimbond



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why exactly are hagwon directors extra-nice when they know you're quitting?
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bondjimbond wrote:
So why exactly are hagwon directors extra-nice when they know you're quitting?


Because maybe you're a crap teacher and/or he's thinking about all the money he can scam out of you.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on taking a firm stance. It feels GREAT to take control & stick with your decisions.

Your boss is being super nice to you in hopes he can persuade you later to stay. Once he realizes that you are leaving, he will change very quickly and you won't get your salary.

My suggestion is simple. Get your next pay. After you have your next pay, you are unavailable to teach due to illness & stress. Your boss wont' be able to deduct anything from you since you've recieved your salary in full and will now need to spend a few months finding a replacement at a very significant cost. Recruiters are now charging 1.5-2.0M per placement. Include airfare in that, he's looking at some serious money + loss of students & image due to you leaving.

Be smart, collect your next pay & leave. Don't apologize, don't feel sorry for him. This has happened before & many employers actually calculate the amount they will deduct from you to cover their costs. They think it's 'fair' to charge you all the extra costs you will incur on them because you are repsonsible for it. It never ceases to amaze me that they've never realized or wanted to accept they are the ones who are making it hard enough for you to leave & they ended up bringing things down on themselves.

Trust me on this one. Get your next pay & go on holiday. You will NOT get your last pay in full. It's too common to get ripped off that you should avoid that route. String him along, & make the prudent decision to leave on your own terms.

It's very refreshing to see someone finally take a stand for once. Too many pussies here dependent on a paycheck need to grow some balls with a spine & stand up for themselves.

Chicken
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curtiscurtis



Joined: 28 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
Congrats on taking a firm stance. It feels GREAT to take control & stick with your decisions.

Your boss is being super nice to you in hopes he can persuade you later to stay. Once he realizes that you are leaving, he will change very quickly and you won't get your salary.

My suggestion is simple. Get your next pay. After you have your next pay, you are unavailable to teach due to illness & stress. Your boss wont' be able to deduct anything from you since you've recieved your salary in full and will now need to spend a few months finding a replacement at a very significant cost. Recruiters are now charging 1.5-2.0M per placement. Include airfare in that, he's looking at some serious money + loss of students & image due to you leaving.

Be smart, collect your next pay & leave. Don't apologize, don't feel sorry for him. This has happened before & many employers actually calculate the amount they will deduct from you to cover their costs. They think it's 'fair' to charge you all the extra costs you will incur on them because you are repsonsible for it. It never ceases to amaze me that they've never realized or wanted to accept they are the ones who are making it hard enough for you to leave & they ended up bringing things down on themselves.

Trust me on this one. Get your next pay & go on holiday. You will NOT get your last pay in full. It's too common to get ripped off that you should avoid that route. String him along, & make the prudent decision to leave on your own terms.

It's very refreshing to see someone finally take a stand for once. Too many pussies here dependent on a paycheck need to grow some balls with a spine & stand up for themselves.

Chicken


Hey thanks a lot. You're right man if people would grow more balls and stand up for themselves more often we wouldn't have to deal with these situations. It's been a chain reaction where I left. Other teachers saw me stand up for myself and now they are going to do the same. The director has a lot of shit coming his way...

I am fairly concerned why he is being so nice... You raise some valid points... However one good thing about my director is that he's always been 'by the book' type of guy and never tried to screw me over... He truly is concerned about the reputation of his school. I don't think he will do anything shady to screw me over... Though I will talk to him tomorrow about what my exact pay will be when I leave... If it differs I'll make a website about his school and email it to him. This would hurt him in the extreme.

The reason I can't leave is because he pays us on the 10th so that would be 10 days I'd be working for free.... also he deducted 200,000 won from each pay check for 3 months as a damage deposit... so he has 600,000

I know I know... He has me by the balls... Why I signed that contract is beyond me! I was young and dumb lol
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TheChickenLover



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

losing 1 weeks' pay is small potatos compared to losing 1 month + more.

Get your last pay & run. Don't pass go, don't collect 200,000 won. Just run with your get out of jail free card!

Chicken
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curtiscurtis



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
losing 1 weeks' pay is small potatos compared to losing 1 month + more.

Get your last pay & run. Don't pass go, don't collect 200,000 won. Just run with your get out of jail free card!

Chicken


lol alright man... I will seriously consider it... I'd like to screw him over anyways it would almost be worth the extra cash-olas frankly! I don't want to stay here longer than I have to haha
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curtiscurtis



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
bondjimbond wrote:
So why exactly are hagwon directors extra-nice when they know you're quitting?


Because maybe you're a crap teacher and/or he's thinking about all the money he can scam out of you.


Because he has a new foreign teacher arriving in 15 days and he doesn't want me to be ranting and raving about what a shit dump this hagwon is when he gets here..... But he'll figure that out eventually by himself anyways haha
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Laws for South Korea Immigration Reply with quote

anyangoldboy wrote:
Are you sure it's 14 days??? When I did it last about 7 months ago it was 30 days...

14 days if it's a mid-contract job-leaving.
Up to 30 days if you finish the contract.
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