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igotthisguitar
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Those who must clearly feel most threatened by conspiracy "theorists", investigation, discussion & discourse are
those who find themselves living with the stain of GUILT.
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/
Likely nothing more frightening to them than to have their vile misdeeds clearly revealed under the glaring lights of public scrutiny.
Hence do we find the constant need for the profusion of disinformation, subversion, infiltration & obfuscation
What a total waste 
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
That's one eye roll for each of the two posters above. |
OK, so that's two eye rolls back since neither one of you can give an example.
Back to ad hominems already, I see. And on the civility thread! |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Please give an example of when a government line was true. |
I'm sure there is one, but I just can't think of any right now.
| Gopher wrote: |
| Actually, based on this, I think he can rest his case. But I do not believe this thread was created to assuage conspiracy theorists or to attempt to reason with them in any way... |
So people who believe politicians tell the truth are nasty as well as stupid. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| ...people who believe politicians tell the truth are nasty as well as stupid. |
Who is stupid? Very well. But I am smart enough to predict that it is inevitable that any thread that goes on long enough will eventually be hijacked by conspiracy theorists, who will do all they can to force everyone else to respond to their simplistic, either/or debates.
I could start a thread that speculated on the best way to get a Victorian-era woman into a g-string and you would eventually hijack it and make it about "them."
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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No, it didn't just start now, but whatever.
So let's get this on record, Gopher: you have just admitted that you believe politicians tell the truth, haven't you?
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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This is getting boring.
Sometimes politicians "tell the truth," and sometimes they do not. And there are all kinds of "lies" in the world human beings make. The fact that you only see "truth" and "lies" in absolutes speaks volumes, however.
You are a child. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
This is getting boring.
Sometimes politicians "tell the truth," and sometimes they do not.
And there are all kinds of "lies" in the world human beings make.
The fact that you only see "truth" and "lies" in absolutes speaks volumes, however.
You are a child. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| You are a child. |
I can't blame you for thinking that since one must speak to you with "simplistic, either/or debates." Otherwise you muss up the topic with your verbal diarrhea, or conversely, dismiss a well-researched logical position by some epithet like "conspiracy theory." You don't really leave much choice. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Civility, kids. Check the title of the thread again.
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| One mans civility is another mans lies. |
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm finding myself in need to respond to my previous post. Oh my!
Civility is a lie.
To be civil one must check their nature and decieve thise around them.
Think about it.
Uncivilized behavior such as telling someone elses six year old that there
is no such thing as Santa is well uncivilized.
Yet upholding the lie is somehow civilized.
The old: "How do I look?" "You look wonderful."
How often is that anything but a lie but yet it is civil.
Upholding myths and bold face lies, this is civil behavior.
"Oh, what a beautiful bride."
A pretty $10,000 dress can't hide the truth ladies.
Butt ugly remains butt ugly forever.
Let's be civil. |
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Nowhere Man
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| What a fabulous post. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
I'm finding myself in need to respond to my previous post. Oh my!
Civility is a lie.
To be civil one must check their nature and decieve thise around them.
Think about it.
Uncivilized behavior such as telling someone elses six year old that there
is no such thing as Santa is well uncivilized.
Yet upholding the lie is somehow civilized.
The old: "How do I look?" "You look wonderful."
How often is that anything but a lie but yet it is civil.
Upholding myths and bold face lies, this is civil behavior.
"Oh, what a beautiful bride."
A pretty $10,000 dress can't hide the truth ladies.
Butt ugly remains butt ugly forever.
Let's be civil. |
Civility involves being diplomatic with others, showing politeness does it not? It is not only in verbal displays where one shows courtesy, but shows good manners. I was taught that there is the idea of being well-mannered. This relativistic argument that there is no such thing as civility is a canard. If there is no such thing as civility, we would not have put the word in the dictionaries of the world. I believe the word comes from Civitas having to do with city in Latin, but you don't need to be from the city to be civil. It is showing decency, courtesy, good manners. You are confusing white lies about a dress with a general concept. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
Civility, kids. Check the title of the thread again.
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To be fair, it DID take five pages to go off the rails instead of the usual... well, one post.
Baby steps, Bobster.
Baby steps. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| The Bobster wrote: |
Civility, kids. Check the title of the thread again.
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To be fair, it DID take five pages to go off the rails instead of the usual... well, one post.
Baby steps, Bobster.
Baby steps. |
I once knew a professional gambler at blackjack, back when I lived in Reno. He told me his greatest strength is that he can stand up and walk away from the table any time he wants, but the "house" has to keep playing against the next guy who comes along.
Sometimes the greatest sign of strength is knowing when to walk away.
I, myself, have been weak in this way far too many times ... even yesterday. Maybe tomorrow, .too. Who can say? |
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