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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: GLOBAL WARMING SAYS IT ALL |
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I think it is safe to say that global warming is 100% proof that the Earth's climat is being controlled by aliens on "what they claim" is Korea. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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There is currently a growing backlash against "global warming" in the USA. The midwest has experienced the worst/coldest winter in many years. My family tells me about it, and I read it in the news. My home state has seen sooo much snow this winter. |
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xingyiman
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Climate change is a fact of life. The Sahara Desert used to be lush plains with flowing streams and green meadows. Scientists are finding tropical dwelling reptilian fossils in Antartica. If you had reporters back at the close of the last ice age they would probably be up in arms over the "global warming" that was occuring. During these periods species go extinct and ecosystems experience rapid changes resulting in the displacement of species and alteration of food chains.
To what extent man is exacerbating the problem is conjecture. Sadly we cannot rely upon popular mainscientific information anymore as the Democratic party in America has co-opted the issue as a fear mongering, vote getting strategy. Like any other area in science there are no areas of concensus and disagreements are many.
The political manuevering around the issue is cluoding what would otherwise be a topic that could establish a concensus but that doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. I have seen political pundits get on TV and blame the Tsunami's of 2004 on man's "irresponsible" stewardship of his environment. Well, nothing humans do has any bearing on tectonic processes and rapidly accelerating crustal movement as is occuring in the "ring of fire" would continue regardless of how many emmisions we would pump into the atmosphere. Are we contributing to weather changes? Probably but until the fear mongering ceases from the democrats and they make it a common issue instead of a politically motivated one I don't see any real concensus being reached anytime soon. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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xingyiman wrote: |
Climate change is a fact of life. The Sahara Desert used to be lush plains with flowing streams and green meadows. Scientists are finding tropical dwelling reptilian fossils in Antartica. If you had reporters back at the close of the last ice age they would probably be up in arms over the "global warming" that was occuring. During these periods species go extinct and ecosystems experience rapid changes resulting in the displacement of species and alteration of food chains.
To what extent man is exacerbating the problem is conjecture. Sadly we cannot rely upon popular mainscientific information anymore as the Democratic party in America has co-opted the issue as a fear mongering, vote getting strategy. Like any other area in science there are no areas of concensus and disagreements are many.
The political manuevering around the issue is cluoding what would otherwise be a topic that could establish a concensus but that doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. I have seen political pundits get on TV and blame the Tsunami's of 2004 on man's "irresponsible" stewardship of his environment. Well, nothing humans do has any bearing on tectonic processes and rapidly accelerating crustal movement as is occuring in the "ring of fire" would continue regardless of how many emmisions we would pump into the atmosphere. Are we contributing to weather changes? Probably but until the fear mongering ceases from the democrats and they make it a common issue instead of a politically motivated one I don't see any real concensus being reached anytime soon. |
It can be both. There is no reason we can't try to clean up our act even if it's not affecting the Earth as much as the scientists say. The trade off of a bit of economic downfall to the chance they are right seems to be a good choice, even if they are wrong.
Anyway, the Koreans would of course be the first people aliens contact when they come as their language is vastly superior to every other one. Not to mention the kimchi will cure all the aliens diseases The climate control thing is just to make the Korean make more kimchi in preparation for the apocalypse. |
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BS.Dos.

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'm not really in agreement with the first couple of posts, but can't be arsed to go into a long argument regarding evidence that supports global warming. Suffice to say, regardless of whether the planet is getting warmer or not it's just plain stupid not to take a precautionary approach. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Global Temperatures from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Adminstration
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/20071213_climateupdate.html
"The global annual temperature − for combined land and ocean surfaces �
for 2007 is expected to be near 58.0 F � and would be the fifth warmest
since records began in 1880. Some of the largest and most widespread
warm anomalies occurred from eastern Europe to central Asia.
Including 2007, seven of the eight warmest years on record have
occurred since 2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since
1997. The global average surface temperature has risen between 0.6�
C and 0.7�C since the start of the twentieth century, and the rate of
increase since 1976 has been approximately three times faster than the
century-scale trend.
The greatest warming has taken place in high latitude regions of the
Northern Hemisphere. Anomalous warmth in 2007 contributed to the
lowest Arctic sea ice extent since satellite records began in 1979,
surpassing the previous record low set in 2005 by a remarkable 23 percent.
According to the National Snow and Ice Data Center, this is part
of a continuing trend in end-of-summer Arctic sea ice extent reductions of
about 10 percent per decade since 1979."
U.S. Winter Temperature Highlights 2008
In the contiguous United States, the average winter temperature was 33.2�F (0.6�C), which was 0.2�F (0.1�C) above the 20th century average � yet still ranks as the coolest since 2001. It was the 54th coolest winter since national records began in 1895.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080313_coolest.html |
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cuckoo for kimchi

Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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global warming affects weather patterns, that don't just include rising temperatures...it can also affect things like more/less snow, more/less rain, rising/lowering of temps. in different areas of the world.
..but anyway...coming generations are fucked |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
There is currently a growing backlash against "global warming" in the USA. The midwest has experienced the worst/coldest winter in many years. My family tells me about it, and I read it in the news. My home state has seen sooo much snow this winter. |
I know. Me too. I am from Ohio. They are just doing that to try and trick us. But, that just gives more reason to know what the truth really is. No snow for 5000 years on Koje Island. Then 1/13/2001 (and I am there) six foot snow drifts. Just an alien test before they hit us with what they thought would throw us off their track.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE |
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cuckoo for kimchi

Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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xingyiman wrote: |
Climate change is a fact of life. The Sahara Desert used to be lush plains with flowing streams and green meadows. Scientists are finding tropical dwelling reptilian fossils in Antartica. If you had reporters back at the close of the last ice age they would probably be up in arms over the "global warming" that was occuring. |
I'm not a scientist.....but....these two examples are true from the fact that millions upon millions of years ago pretty much the entire land on earth was in one spot. Over the course of millions of years, the plate movements caused the continents to move hence changing climates in places such as the Sahara Desert and Antartica |
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