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Learn Korean without Hangeul writing?

 
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bish



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Learn Korean without Hangeul writing? Reply with quote

I can read Hangeul but can't be arsed learning it from a book in Hangeul. I just want to learn some basic speaking quickly. Can anyone point me in a direction?
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blondieLass



Joined: 30 Apr 2007
Location: Yongin, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I came over I used the survivalphrases podcasts to learn some phrases
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really disagree, I find learning Korean via Hangul to be MUCH easier. You know how pretty much every word is pronounced without having to listen to it. I bought some books that I threw away because there was too much Romanization and not enough Hangul.

Give it a try. It's like everything else in the world: the more you do it, the better you will get at it. Eventually you'll be fast enough to be able to read along with captions on the TV screen or at the Noraebang.
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
I find learning Korean via Hangul to be MUCH easier. You know how pretty much every word is pronounced without having to listen to it.


I totally agree with this. Additionally, Hangeul is so easy to read, albeit slowly at first.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try http://www.koreanclass101.com. They have several different levels of lessons you can listen to for free.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
I really disagree, I find learning Korean via Hangul to be MUCH easier. You know how pretty much every word is pronounced without having to listen to it. I bought some books that I threw away because there was too much Romanization and not enough Hangul.

Give it a try. It's like everything else in the world: the more you do it, the better you will get at it. Eventually you'll be fast enough to be able to read along with captions on the TV screen or at the Noraebang.


Have you actually tried to use those words to speak to Koreans? Hangul doesn't tell you anything about prosody. I'll learn a word in Hangul, but I've found I don't really know it until I've practiced with a native speaking Korean.
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Steffie183



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:


Have you actually tried to use those words to speak to Koreans? Hangul doesn't tell you anything about prosody. I'll learn a word in Hangul, but I've found I don't really know it until I've practiced with a native speaking Korean.


That's normal with any language. If I had a dime for every time my fiancee tried to use a new word with me....Or for everytime he would point at a word and tell me to say it. He would repeat and it still doesn't sound right. Granted, I do the same in Korean.

Lonely Planet seems to be a favorite: http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Planet-Korean-Phrasebook-Minkyoung/dp/1740591666/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206358222&sr=1-3

Or if you are serious about getting down and learning Korean, these textbooks are good for self-study. My prof actually helped write them. http://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Korean-Beginning-Textbook-Textbooks/dp/0824823427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206358222&sr=1-1

But seriously, try to learn with the Hangeul. I can't even pronounce the romanized crap. It's useless to me
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of insulting you: it's the HEIGHT of laziness to not learn Hangeul. It's an alphabet... the characters correspond to sounds. It's not like learning Chinese where it takes stupid amounts of effort. Seriously, sit down and spend an hour or two and you'll have it down and it'll make learning Korean much easier.
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Intrepid



Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Barron's Korean course Reply with quote

I used the Barron's Korean course, romanized, and it was great. The emphasis is on instant use of whatever you know. As it's written in letters you can read quickly, you have an easier time with the drills.
Don't know if it's still available, but it was great for me.
I still read hangul fairly slowly, as my Korean is used almost entirely for spoken conversation.
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Intrepid



Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Further thread, or link to one? Reply with quote

Should we start a further thread about people who ask if you can "speak hangul"? That kills me.
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
At the risk of insulting you: it's the HEIGHT of laziness to not learn Hangeul. It's an alphabet... the characters correspond to sounds. It's not like learning Chinese where it takes stupid amounts of effort. Seriously, sit down and spend an hour or two and you'll have it down and it'll make learning Korean much easier.


Didn't the OP say right off the bat that he read Hanguel?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Further thread, or link to one? Reply with quote

Intrepid wrote:
Should we start a further thread about people who ask if you can "speak hangul"? That kills me.


Why? One meaning of the term is Korean Language.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote:

Didn't the OP say right off the bat that he read Hanguel?


Good point. I guess the rest of it made little sense if the OP already reads Hangeul, so I didn't even acknowledge it. I think it makes even less sense for him to read Hangeul and not want to use it to learn than if he never learned it at all.
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Further thread, or link to one? Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Should we start a further thread about people who ask if you can "speak hangul"? That kills me.


Why? One meaning of the term is Korean Language.


i'm not an expert of korean, but i think "hangeul/한글" refers to korean writing, whereas "hangukeo/한국어" refers to korean language. if i'm wrong, please correct me, i only took one semester's worth.

as for the OP, it's not that complicated, just get a basic phrasebook? i'd recommend against the Berlitz one though, the romanization is really strange in that one.
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Vancouver



Joined: 12 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Further thread, or link to one? Reply with quote

darkcity wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Should we start a further thread about people who ask if you can "speak hangul"? That kills me.


Why? One meaning of the term is Korean Language.


i'm not an expert of korean, but i think "hangeul/한글" refers to korean writing, whereas "hangukeo/한국어" refers to korean language. if i'm wrong, please correct me, i only took one semester's worth.

as for the OP, it's not that complicated, just get a basic phrasebook? i'd recommend against the Berlitz one though, the romanization is really strange in that one.
correct. Hangeul is the written text.

Its easier to learn the spoken language if you can read the written language. Learning pinyin made it easier for me to learn Mandarin
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