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WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea
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anyway



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Although they are perhaps a little behind their researcher counterparts in the United States, especially because they are very busy with their psychiatric practice"

Just had to share my favorite part...
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drcrazy



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Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sixthly and lastly, was this written by a 7th grader?

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lawyertood



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wondered what good old cpa was up to! (Sorry, only old-timers on Dave's will get this one) LOL
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
*Sigh* Where to begin?

http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2008/03/137_21243.html

Excellence of Korean Psychiatrists, Nurses

By Lee Min-hwan

I am writing to talk about the excellence of Korea's psychiatrists and their nurses. In my opinion, the quality of medical treatment afforded by these professionals is extremely high and probably better than the psychiatric treatment offered in other countries.

First of all, their levels of knowledge and know-how of psychiatry are very high. As a matter of course, they are very intelligent and it is my surmise that they have studied psychiatry enthusiastically. Not only that, they work extremely hard.

Secondly, their success in providing medical treatment to people who need clinical treatment has been superb. As far as I know, people who need psychiatric treatment have been receiving effective therapy with a lot of care on the part of Korean psychiatrists and nurses.

It has been said from a long time ago that people who receive psychiatric treatment are much more mentally healthy and sound than people who do not seek psychiatric treatment, which might sound ironical. Therefore, Korean people should know that it is not an embarrassing thing at all to ask for psychiatric treatment and, rather, if one feels one is suffering psychological problems, one should go to a psychiatrist without further ado and without feeling embarrassed.

It is a great problem, indeed, that Korean society looks askance at people receiving mental treatment. A long time ago, depression was considered something very serious. But, nowadays, this is far less the case. Yet these days, people suffering from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are considered by the Korean society, at large, as having significant issues. I am sure however, that as time passes, modern medicine will very quickly make advancements with regard to psychiatric treatment and the mental disorders of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder will be considered slight and minor disorders that are not at all embarrassing or serious.

Thirdly, Korean psychiatrists and their nurses are so splendid that they cure mental illnesses very quickly, probably quicker than psychiatrists and nurses overseas. I am aware of the fact that Korean psychiatrists and psychiatric nurses are extremely good at applications of modern psychiatric theories, knowledge, and know-how. Although they are perhaps a little behind their researcher counterparts in the United States, especially because they are very busy with their psychiatric practice, they are very capable in their application of theory and knowledge.

The number of the people who commit suicide because of mental problems and other reasons seems to be rather high here in Korea. However, as Korean psychiatrists and nurses are more than capable in treating patients with minor and major mental disorders, I really feel that people should never commit suicide and, instead, should visit a hospital with a department of psychiatry or neuropsychiatry or a psychiatric clinic. I have heard that quite a few entrepreneurs and entertainers have committed suicide, but feel that their precious lives could have been saved quite easily if they went to a psychiatrist. In addition, again to the best of my knowledge, curing mental illnesses seems to be simpler and easier than people think: All that people suffering from psychological problems have to do are to visit a psychiatrist, get counseling from the psychiatrist, meticulously follow the instructions of the psychiatrist, and, when necessary and prescribed by the doctor, take the medicine. This is especially so because Korean psychiatrists are extremely accurate with their diagnoses and pharmaceutical treatment.

Fourthly, I am aware of the fact that Korean psychiatrists and psychiatric nurses really care about their patients. I have never seen a psychiatrist who is not deeply committed to curing his or her patients. Although Korean psychiatrists are extremely busy, they do their best to provide excellent counseling and therapy, in particular. Especially, it seems that with the Korean economy currently being in a prolonged recession and with Korean society being somewhat unstable these days, psychiatrists and nurses working in psychiatry are tremendously busy. Nevertheless, it is apparent that they have been doing their utmost to provide excellent medical care.

Fifthly and lastly, the coordination and cooperation between Korean psychiatrists and nurses in psychiatric departments of hospitals or psychiatric clinics is really superb. Their extremely good collaboration really contributes to the quick medical treatment of their patients.

In conclusion, Korean psychiatrists and nurses working in psychiatry deserve a lot of admiration and respect, especially because they work hard, do their utmost to cure their patients, and engage in highly intellectual psychiatric research.

The writer is president of a translation firm, ``Maum Communications." He can be reached at [email protected].


Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
Yet these days, people suffering from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are considered by the Korean society, at large, as having significant issues.

Ya think?

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
I am sure however, that as time passes, modern medicine will very quickly make advancements with regard to psychiatric treatment and the mental disorders of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder will be considered slight and minor disorders that are not at all embarrassing or serious.

When Korean psychiatrists can turn schizophrenia into a "slight and minor" disorder, I'll believe the whole article.
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jetrash



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lawyertood wrote:
I wondered what good old cpa was up to! (Sorry, only old-timers on Dave's will get this one) LOL




didnt he moph into justanotherday
??


either way,i got into big shut them em down fights (wearin diffnt coloured socks) till they shuffled off to asias whineiest.


bhaaa bhaaa..or as the fat boy sings whaaaaa
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
Therefore, Korean people should know that it is not an embarrassing thing at all to ask for psychiatric treatment and, rather, if one feels one is suffering psychological problems, one should go to a psychiatrist without further ado and without feeling embarrassed.

Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with embarrassment. It has everything to do with the people they know and the people around them treating them like complete nutbar whackjobs for even contemplating going to such a professional.
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PGF



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drcrazy wrote:
Sixthly and lastly, was this written by a 7th grader?


Maybe from one of the other 6 countries but not from the states. If you use "secondly" after first grade, you are flunked and made to repeat a year....

If i have another co-teacher teaching "firstly, secondly....", I'll, ummm, laugh....like I do now.
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Suwoner10



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this guy is auditioning for newspaper writer...in the OTHER Korea.
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oy! Would you guys please stop quoting it like I'm the one who wrote it.

In regards the article, and as so many others have pointed out, it essentially sounds like a grandma writing a letter to an employer as to why her grandson should get hired.

Why are Korean mental health professionals so good? We don't know.

In what way do they work so hard? Who knows.

Any stats (or anything) to back up their greater efficacy in relation to professionals from other countries? Nothing.

On and on and on...

Having this guy be Korean psychiatry's mouthpiece is like having my dad as a reference.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PGF wrote:
drcrazy wrote:
Sixthly and lastly, was this written by a 7th grader?


Maybe from one of the other 6 countries but not from the states. If you use "secondly" after first grade, you are flunked and made to repeat a year....

If i have another co-teacher teaching "firstly, secondly....", I'll, ummm, laugh....like I do now.


is secondly so bad? i use secondly.
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TexasPete



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opinion pieces are fine and all that, but it would be nice if there was even one fact there. This reads more like a 7th graders first persuasive essay in the States...a bad 7th grader.
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newteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea Reply with quote

Quote:

As far as I know, people who need psychiatric treatment have been receiving effective therapy with a lot of care on the part of Korean psychiatrists and nurses.



My favorite. "As far as I know." In other words, they're Korean so I really don't have to do the research. I can assume they're wonderful, amazing, talented, doctors and nurses.
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thirdly, Korean psychiatrists and their nurses are so splendid that they cure mental illnesses very quickly, probably quicker than psychiatrists and nurses overseas.


I love the way the author presents zero evidence for said claim. The use of the word "probably" is almost like an admission of bullshittiness.
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WoBW



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: WARNING: knee-jerk reaction to super suicidal Korea Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:


Thirdly, Korean psychiatrists and their nurses are so splendid that they cure mental illnesses very quickly, probably quicker than psychiatrists and nurses overseas. I am aware of the fact that Korean psychiatrists and psychiatric nurses are extremely good at applications of modern psychiatric theories, knowledge, and know-how. Although they are perhaps a little behind their researcher counterparts in the United States, especially because they are very busy with their psychiatric practice, they are very capable in their application of theory and knowledge.



Don't know why, but this paragraph had me chewing the carpet with mirth.

Let me try...ahem

British English teachers teach Englishee very quickly, probably more quickly than teachers from other countries. So shove that in yer pipe and smoke it. Cool

See. Easy.
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