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what's that pop-like Korean Ajumma music called?
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true dat the 70s stuff's awesome, but some of the 80s sh.it's aight too. to me, that 80s stuff sounds quite disco.

oh i feel like buying a shiny shiny shirt now.

maybe a big yellow suit and hat a la the mask.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why any of them would've switched from those awesome organs to those crappy synthesisers. For that matter I don't understand why reggae or soul made the same switch either.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm given the choice, i'd take a hammond over a synth, but they do have their place. u don't dig prince or parliament at all?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgiles wrote:
hmmmm given the choice, i'd take a hammond over a synth, but they do have their place. u don't dig prince or parliament at all?


Nope.

Synths suck, especially when they're used to replace an entire band.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrgiles wrote:
hmmmm given the choice, i'd take a hammond over a synth, but they do have their place. u don't dig prince or parliament at all?


Nope.

Synths suck, especially when they're used to replace an entire band.


wow! well then there're worlds of music u can't enter. but i do see the advantages of having a more focused approach to music than mine.

however in my defense, in both my examples, there's no danger of the synths replacing the band. parliament was a massive outfit. and just as "anti-establishment" as most any sort of punk.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgiles wrote:
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mrgiles wrote:
hmmmm given the choice, i'd take a hammond over a synth, but they do have their place. u don't dig prince or parliament at all?


Nope.

Synths suck, especially when they're used to replace an entire band.


wow! well then there're worlds of music u can't enter. but i do see the advantages of having a more focused approach to music than mine.

however in my defense, in both my examples, there's no danger of the synths replacing the band. parliament was a massive outfit. and just as "anti-establishment" as most any sort of punk.


By the time the synth came in they were already calling it New Wave.
Actually I think the keyboards for The Stranglers were pretty awesome.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgiles wrote:
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mrgiles wrote:
hmmmm given the choice, i'd take a hammond over a synth, but they do have their place. u don't dig prince or parliament at all?


Nope.

Synths suck, especially when they're used to replace an entire band.


wow! well then there're worlds of music u can't enter. but i do see the advantages of having a more focused approach to music than mine.

however in my defense, in both my examples, there's no danger of the synths replacing the band. parliament was a massive outfit. and just as "anti-establishment" as most any sort of punk.


Well, New Wave did some interesting things with synthesisers. But it's the "synthesising" part I disagree with. It takes the soul out of the music, in particular when it is used to replace real instruments. A band like Devo used synthesisers in a new experimental way, not trying to cheaply replicate the sound of real instruments.

Compare some old reggae to the newer stuff, like all that lover's rock in the '80s where the synth can be used to replace drums, horns, real organs, and anything else. Or compare a Motown band with a full horn section to something more modern like Boyz II Men, who relied on the synthesiser and drum machine.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But it's the "synthesising" part I disagree with. It takes the soul out of the music, in particular when it is used to replace real instruments.


gotcha! well i'd be dopey 2 disagree wit u when u put it like that. and tho i may be dopey, i'm not disagreeing...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgiles wrote:
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But it's the "synthesising" part I disagree with. It takes the soul out of the music, in particular when it is used to replace real instruments.


gotcha! well i'd be dopey 2 disagree wit u when u put it like that. and tho i may be dopey, i'm not disagreeing...


And it's not like I'm very familiar with Prince and Parliament. As far as I know they don't do what I'm talking about all the time, only on some of their lamer songs.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

think it's fair to say that in both those p cases, altho synths are not the focus, they're not feared objects either. both acts love lots of horns, and, of course, bass (i do understand there were some dark dark days for the purple one, but he is pretty much back!). u got me thinkin abt devo, and kraftwerk too...seems like a lot of the bands that utilise synthesisers well are also pretty funny bast.ards.

o yeah, well 트로트 (derived from "foxtrot", i'm assured) is great. but my love of it may just be one of the troubling signs pointing to my possible transformation into a fully fledged ajosshi. but, if this does happen, at least i'll be one of those more dapper ones in a suit and two-toned shoes.

hang on, i'm actually wearing two-toned shoes right now. maybe i'm more in danger than i even know...
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bobbyhanlon



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kim chu-ja (김추자) is my favourite bbongjjak singer. can we get a few more recommendations going?
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better yet, here's my favourite bbongjjak song for download.

www.daehanmindecline.com/transfer/kimyongim.mp3

Picture a bunch of skinheads and punks dancing to this at 3am and that's my last reggae night.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not too good at names of singers, except for that clown 태진아 (Tae Jina), but here are some titles that i enjoy..

뭐야뭐야뭐야 (wtf, wtf, wtf)
똑똑한여자 (smart girl)
빨간 구두 아가씨 (young lady with the red shoes)

this isn't 트로트, but really cool - i've got this album by this kinda folk singer from the 60s called Kim Jung-mi - it's an album done with shin jung hyun. awesome stuff.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgiles wrote:

this isn't 트로트, but really cool - i've got this album by this kinda folk singer from the 60s called Kim Jung-mi - it's an album done with shin jung hyun. awesome stuff.


Yeah, there were some great musicians back before the government decided to crack down on them in the '70s.
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i've found a website that's got some songs from kim jung-mi.

http://progressive.homestead.com/SHINJUNGHYUN2.html

she looks like a bit of a fox too!!!
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