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ontheway
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: Another Conspiracy inside the GOP - proven and exposed ... |
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Missouri GOP Playing Machine Politics with Ron Paul Delegates
ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The Ron Paul campaign has been receiving reports that Missouri GOP rules have been violated in the set-up and execution of several county Republican caucuses. Ron Paul supporters in Missouri have been attending their county caucuses and electing Ron Paul delegates to be seated at the Missouri Republican State Convention. However, there are concerns that many Ron Paul delegates to the Missouri Republican State Convention were disenfranchised and not properly seated.
On Thursday, March 20, campaign field director Debbie Hopper visited the Missouri state GOP headquarters to request a copy of the records needed to obtain the information to file challenges. She was told in front of witnesses that she could not view the report. To obtain the needed information, Ms. Hopper then used the contact information of county chairs listed on the state GOP website. On Saturday, March 22, the webpage containing their contact information had been removed.
The Paul campaign believes that a handful of GOP officials are playing machine politics and breaking their own rules to disenfranchise Paul supporters.
�The Republican party is in trouble and needs more participants in 2008, not less,� said campaign manager Lew Moore. �It makes no sense for Missouri party leaders to exclude and marginalize the new activists they badly need to work at every level this fall.�
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul�s supporters have been highly successful in several Missouri counties. In St. Charles County (suburb of St. Louis), Paul supporters filled 241 of the 274 country Republican delegate slots. In Jackson County (Kansas City), Paul supporters filled 162 of 187 delegate slots. And in Greene County (Springfield), Paul supporters filled 72 of 112 delegate slots.
The D and R parties are machines. Conspiracies occur daily, most never come to light.
The problem with exposing real conspiracies such as this one is that all the crazy conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts have exhausted the patience and tolerance of the public. When the real thing comes along people don't want to hear it, they think it's nothing new, or refuse to even the consider the possibility that there could be a conspiracy. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Another Conspiracy inside the GOP - proven and exposed . |
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ontheway wrote: |
The problem with exposing real conspiracies such as this one is that all the crazy conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts have exhausted the patience and tolerance of the public. When the real thing comes along people don't want to hear it, they think it's nothing new, or refuse to even the consider the possibility that there could be a conspiracy. |
Yes, assuming your working definition of "conspiracy", i.e., "political dirty tricks" = "a kind of conspiracy" is a good one; a good working definition. But you make a very good point. The "crazy conspiracy theories and conspiracy nuts", as you describe them, can and do have a detrimental effect on democracy by detracting the general public from the important issues, and exhausting the patience and tolerance of the public.
As a consequence, people should cast a very critical and skeptical eye on these theories. They're not just 'harmless fun', they can have a detrimental effect on society. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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I don't think that people wondering if the JFK assassination was a CIA conspiracy is hurting the GDP.
However, sometimes a spade's a spade. Maybe if the powers that be weren't malicious and/or incompetent, there wouldn't be so many "Conspiracies". |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
All other 3 "remaining" candidates ( i.e. Billary, Osama & Mac-kain ) ARE CFR. |
So much for not using ad hominem attacks. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Milwaukiedave wrote: |
igotthisguitar wrote: |
All other 3 "remaining" candidates ( i.e. Billary, Osama & Mac-kain ) ARE CFR. |
So much for not using ad hominem attacks. |
Where's the ad hominem? Where's the "attack"?
Simply pointing out the facts. That constitues an attack does it?
Merely poeticK license.
Also, why do you want to try & sidetrack the focus here from the real issues?
( i.e. Ron Paul is NOT CFR, the other three remaining "candidates" ... coincidentally ... are ).
Want some cheese with that whine?  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Maybe your the one that needs some cheese, I mean since your candidate lost. Keep up the good work with convincing people about your conspiracy theories. Hopefully someone shows you the way to the funny farm for your own good. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Maybe your the one that needs some cheese, I mean since ... your candidate lost.
Keep up the good work with convincing people about your conspiracy ... theories.
Hopefully someone shows you the way to the funny farm ... for your own good. |
CFR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations |
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Funkdafied

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Maybe if the powers that be weren't malicious and/or incompetent, there wouldn't be so many "Conspiracies". |
Or maybe if a certain group of people weren't so insecure, paranoid, and deluded there wouldn't be so many conspiracies. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Funkdafied wrote: |
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Maybe if the powers that be weren't malicious and/or incompetent, there wouldn't be so many "Conspiracies". |
Or "maybe if" ... a "certain group" of people weren't so ... insecure, paranoid, and deluded ... there wouldn't be so many "conspiracies". |
e.g. Maybe if everyone always believed the official line ...
Maybe if people didn't actually bother to question.
Maybe you should try to better explain what you're trying to say. |
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stillnotking

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Angelina Jolie is CFR too! My God, where does the madness end? |
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