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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Kindergarten student gagged by teacher Reply with quote

http://koreabeat.com/?p=873

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At this kindergarten on the 19th a teacher, Choi, used tape to close the mouth of 6-year old Yun for 30 minutes.

The reason was that the child frequently disturbed class and would not listen to the teacher.

The tape used was 5-centimeter vinyl tape of the kind used for packing boxes, kept at the school for arts and crafts.



I can understand the temptation but...!
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Cracker006



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...

I'm not sure why it's all that traumatic to the kid though. He could still breathe couldn't he?
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fortysixyou



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Kindergarten student gagged by teacher Reply with quote

[quote="Hater Depot"]http://koreabeat.com/?p=873

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At this kindergarten on the 19th a teacher, Choi, used tape to close the mouth of 6-year old Yun for 30 minutes.




Oh, good. The teacher wasn't a foreigner.



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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the teacher would've jsut left the tape sitting on the kid's desk, I'm sure the kid would've found a wayt to tape his own mouth shut.
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Beej



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when i was in first and second grade the teacher would put a piece of masking tape on the mouths of kids who wouldnt shut up. No parents cared back then. It was effective. I dont see what the big deal is.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracker006 wrote:
Hmmm...

I'm not sure why it's all that traumatic to the kid though. He could still breathe couldn't he?


There are a couple of reasons:

1. The airflow through the nose isn't as great as through the mouth, so it's a restriction, especially if the child has a stuffy nose at the time.

2. It's quite difficult to talk through the nose, so that's yet another physical restriction.

3. There's a distinct possibility of gagging (as in the gag reflex) and then suffocating. In other words, drowning on one's own puke.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no excuse for doing that.

As I mentioned on that post and on my blog, that happened at my old school, where I taught kindergarten once a week last year. Yes, kindergarten kids can be a handful, but teachers should know better. Considering some of the punishments I've seen handed down to students of all ages, I'm surprised this one caused a fuss among parents. But remember, these are very small children---6 is young of course, but that works out to about 4 in Korean age---and it should go without saying that you shouldn't do that to a kid. Whether or not it's truly damaging is irrelevant. If a kid has his mouth forcibly shut, s/he's gonna try to scream and cry, making all the harder to breathe.

As I pointed out, the school's website no longer allows guests to view teachers' pictures, and now gives a "login" prompt. The prompt was not there a few days ago. Based on the video, though, the teacher is not someone I reckognize, and is most likely an "assistant" teacher. I haven't heard any news outside of that Korea Beat article, but I really hope she's not kept on staff after that. However, we've seen the very lax punishments handed down to Korean teachers who beat, abuse, molest, or harass students, so I won't be surprised if she issues an apology and is kept around.
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Kimchieluver



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to do my MEd. thesis on electroschock collars used on middle school students.
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SeoulShakin



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my mouth taped shut in ballet class once, along with two of my friends. We were talking to much, she threatened with the tape, we laughed, so she did it.

We shut up (apart from a couple of muffled giggles), and our parents basically said "serves you right". It was hard to do ballet and get winded without being able to breathe through your mouth, but I deserved it, and thought it was funny after the fact.

That was about 10 years ago. Should she do this today, she'd probably have some livid parents after her.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
The airflow through the nose isn't as great as through the mouth, so it's a restriction

Don't know about you, but I'm not a mouth breather. I've breathed through my nose all day every day for pretty much my entire life (even in my sleep!!!). It's not that much of a "restriction".
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had it done to me in grade 2. I was in French immersion and I think it was done because I was speaking English. Also had my desk beside the teacher's desk that year. Guess I was badly behaved.

Just scotch tape though. And one piece. Just enough for the embarrassment effect. Things like that though can have negative effects on the child. I wouldn't recommend it. Christ, look how I turned out. Pretty scary stuff.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
The airflow through the nose isn't as great as through the mouth, so it's a restriction

Don't know about you, but I'm not a mouth breather. I've breathed through my nose all day every day for pretty much my entire life (even in my sleep!!!). It's not that much of a "restriction".


Didn't read the rest of the sentence, did you? Anyway, when a child gets overactive, the body's demand for oxygen increases dramatically. Thus the rapid breathing, often through the mouth.
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Sody



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comments after that article are so true. Korean parents are just plain bad. Really, really bad.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my mouth taped shut. I didn't quite like that. It wasn't really effective on me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of this story that was going around when I was a middle school student:

Apparently, there was a woman who had been cheating on her doctor husband. He was so angry about it that he bribed another doctor to sew her vagina shut during a cosmetic surgery operation.

It sounded pretty horrible, but the only problem was that half of us had no clue what a vagina was. The story sounded good enough to pass on, however.
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