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KoreanLifer



Joined: 30 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: news article on Canadian teacher jailed in Kr Reply with quote

after reading this i am very aware that Koreans can be very shady at times!


http://canada.com/national/story.asp?id=6D27E682-A5E4-4DB3-85FE-C853973FE535
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see much difference between his situation and Brokedown Palace...or being naive enough to take something through customs at a U.S. airport for some stranger on the plane who asks you to. Being stupid is dangerous.

It's dangerous to live in another country. Period. Sh_it can happen to you and it doesn't have to be fair. Some Korean driver can hit you with his car, then make you take the heat when the cops show up because he can speak the language and you can't. It's a good rule of thumb to regard any Korean that you don't know as potentially dangerous, until you know otherwise.
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Austin



Joined: 23 May 2003
Location: In the kitchen

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: Give me a break... Reply with quote

Let us not blame Korea for one foreigner's stupidity!

Whether you believe his story or not, you have to be "missing quite a few tools from your shed" to do what he did.

If anything, pity him, but to claim that "Koreans can be very shady" as the cause for his situation is unfair.

He deserved to go to jail. Hopefully, it will prevent others from following in his footsteps.
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, if you met someone in a canadian or american bar and they asked you to accept packages for them, you'd think they were insane.
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hadeshorn



Joined: 30 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austin, I am certain you live a very lonely life. Either that or you werent liked much at home and came here to make friends.

Now you have probably succeeded or failed in this regard but somehow you still feel the need to gain attention to yourself and to do that you say stupid stuff.

Next time contemplate thinking before posting.

Oh and that victim signature you had before proves even more what an insignificant moron you are.
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
well, if you met someone in a canadian or american bar and they asked you to accept packages for them, you'd think they were insane.

True enough. Notice too, how every "victim" will always get his/her story into the Canadian news media, even if they're only a victim of their own stupidity.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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True enough. Notice too, how every "victim" will always get his/her story into the Canadian news media, even if they're only a victim of their own stupidity.


Yeah, especially if it involves saintly Canadians versus Big Bad Foreigners. The Canadian media can be as parochial and xenophobic as any. There was a case back in the 90s of the young couple who got arrested in Brazil for helping some leftist rebels kidnap a tycoon. The couples' families were all over the media, going on about how their little darlings had no idea that they were involved in a kidnapping. The Canadian press pretty much bought this hook line and sinker, until it was discovered that the kids had known very well what they were doing. For some reason, the Canadian government continued to lobby on the kids' behalf, until the Brazilians sent them home.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The man, who called himself Kevin, said he had lived in Vancouver, and still knew people there. The two struck up a friendship, and Kevin eventually mentioned that he sometimes had difficulty getting mail from Canada, because he lived in a smaller Korean city.



The only person that Kevin knew who could accept mail on his behalf was a foreigner he had just met? Pawlowski must be pretty dense if he fell for that one.
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Seoultrader



Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the photo just kind of says it all. Unemployable loozzza.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Give me a break... Reply with quote

Austin wrote:
Let us not blame Korea for one foreigner's stupidity!

Whether you believe his story or not, you have to be "missing quite a few tools from your shed" to do what he did.

If anything, pity him, but to claim that "Koreans can be very shady" as the cause for his situation is unfair.

He deserved to go to jail. Hopefully, it will prevent others from following in his footsteps.


I agree with most of what you said. If he was innocent, he doesn't deserve to lose parts of his life for being gulible. At the same time, I don't believe this guys story at all. The man states that he is gonna go back to Thailand. My guess is that he is familiar with what goes on over there. Why wouldn't he exercise the same caution over here.

I think he just decided that the risk was worth the reward (drug package). In the end he was right. He got 2 months in jail when he could have gotten 5 years or more.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the previous thread we've had on Noah and his situation:
ANYONE KNOW THIS GUY?

So what happened to the "My boss set me up because he doesn't want to pay my bonus!" tune he was singing when he was first arrested? Now it's a guy named Kevin who had a package delivered to him under the name of Dale...
Regardless pf whether he is a liar or a patsy I think Mr. Pawlowski should thank his lucky stars he didn't have to do a jail term in Korea or Canada.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hadeshorn wrote:
Next time contemplate thinking before posting.


Actually I was thinking the opposite- Austin's post in this thread is one of his better ones. Sure he still has a way to go on the empathy ladder, but we can't all be Tiger Beer.
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I read this story the word "entrapment" came to mind.

Stupidity is not an indictable offense.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
When I read this story the word "entrapment" came to mind.

Stupidity is not an indictable offense.


No, it can just get you booted off Beckerson's board if you give out the password.

HTH
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Mr. Kalgukshi



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Location: Here or on the International Job Forums

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Entrapment Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
When I read this story the word "entrapment" came to mind.

Stupidity is not an indictable offense.


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It's good that "entrapment" came to mind when you were reading the story. It doesn't mean that's what happened but recognizing entrapment as a possible special defense would be particularly useful were you his attorney in a U.S. court. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been raised in the Korean court by the Korean attorney incident to the guilty plea.

Relative to stupidity, it can get you locked up, though.
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