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[Enrico Palazzo]

It is often heard on this forum of members spamming. Would you clarify what that means to you. It can mean different things to different people.
Is a poll needed for that?

I am not sure what exactly the posters mean by that. I think that's something that's really hard to look at unless there is a general pattern of what posters don't like when it comes to what they would label as spamming.

[bacasper]

To me, spam is unsolicited messages, but I've seen it here used to mean the same message posted multiple times, esp. when off-topic. It is misused, as I've seen on the forum, when people use it to attack some post they do not agree with.

[Gopher]

Classic example: IGTG's placing the same Ron Paul story on ten threads or so in order to force everyone to see it at least once.

Another example? Hitting us again and again and again and again with JFK assassination threads or 9/11 threads. Again, forcing us to see these threads over and over and over again.

I propose a simple solution: people can post any link to any story they want. But one time and on one thread is enough. This should be a hard and fast rule, by the way.

[igotthisguitar]

[Funkdafied]

[stevemcgarrett]

Posting variations on the same theme as new topic threads in the span of a week hoping readers will open at least one of them. In this regard, a certain killer of royalty and guitar player come to mind.

I post new threads often and yet I'd be very willing to limit myself to one new thread a day or even every other day so that more threads are read and responded to. As it is now, we have archived hundreds of webpages with threads most will never go back to read, whether they post here regularly or just drop in for a look, and that's a fact, Jack.

I'd also like to see a thread-of-the-week, determined by the MODS, for its seriousness-of-purpose and for the caliber of responses it receives. Might be fun for awhile, at least, and encourage well-meaning and thoughtful responses to some serious issues. Anyway, my two cents worth on it.

Thanks for asking, Enrico. You're all right in my book.

[Enrico Palazzo]

[Gopher]

No exaggeration. Just a nice, round number. The truth lies somewhere between five and ten, and it lies much closer to ten than to five. I refer to a chronic pattern, a pattern everyone here is familiar with.

If you like, I can start producing thread after thread as evidence, when I have time to start going into her posting history. One immediately comes to mind regarding a story alleging that Ron Paul had really won X, Y, or Z primary election and that someone conspired to twist the results and make it look like McCain won. This story appeared seven or eight times in the span of five minutes, on seven or eight different threads.

Ya-ta Boy and myself challenged her on this and she responded that it was her job to educate the free world as to what was really going on in this primary election.

[JMO]

Yea i have logged in before and seen the same link posted several times by IGTG. I think we are all aware of this.

[Funkdafied]

[Gopher]

How have posters on this forum used the concept "spamming" in the past...?

Example No. 1

Example No. 2

Note that this reminds us of the other repeat offender: Regicide and the barrage of JFK conspiracy theory threads he posts here.

Example No. 3

Example No. 4: Look! A JFK conspiracy theory thread...

The IGTG threads go back to before Super Tues. Perhaps Ya-ta Boy is willing to confirm my recollections, above.

[Milwaukiedave]

I'll back Gopher on his statements, especially spamming threads that have nothing to do with what is being posted. Many posters have asked those who do it to stop, but are just flammed for doing so. I believe there was a thread about this Enrico and it was pulled, so I'm sure with some fancy footwork (or fingerwork as it were) you could pull it up and take a look at what was said.

[bacasper]

[Enrico Palazzo]

I am scratching my head with this trying to come up with something reasonable.

1)Can we call IGTG just IGTG or him. We don't know if it is a her.
IGTG are you a her? Otherwise, if it's a he, female posters might think we're being sexist, and we all have mothers now, don't we? I have sisters and a mother, let's show some respect.

2)Now, for IGTG he does need to show some respect vis-a-vis the other posters as Ya-Ta-Boy said. I do understand IGTG feels he has very important causes. I mean the killing of Tibetans concerns many people in the world. However, here is what IGTG needs to becareful from doing.
He shouldn't post these political topics on the General Forum. I am not sure what the other mods think about posting it on the Off-Topic forum.

IGTG, what can you do? I hope you are listening. Suppose Mork posts
on meatballs, and we are supposed to discuss meatballs in the thread, and you bring in Tibet, it seems like the posters consider that spamming.
You can do the Tibet thing or Ron Paul thing without mixing Tibetans with meatballs. It's an example!

Suppose you already did Ron Paul, don't do it 3 times. Now, suppose back to the Tibetan thing, there is some kind of new development like France decides to boycott (they haven't) and that hits the news, fine post it. It's a different thing. The issue here is some are saying they feel you are preaching to them as if they have to accept your religion or Crusade.
One of my best friends was too much like that, and I had to sit him down many times and have a talk with him about that and he cooled it, because he realized he was letting his ego get big by forcing his views on others no matter how noble his intentions were.

So, try to not repeat the same exact post is what people are saying.
If there is a similar topic, don't post something related unless there is like a new development, a new current event, so to speak. Give us a shower if you want with the stuff, just not a thunderstorm.

Now, for how many posts (this is to all members). Of course, this is voluntary. Mods won't go around enforcing stuff, unless you go nuts and post 20 or something. Two would stifle IGTG, Adventurer, Milwaukee, and other posters. Preferably, Let's go with 3 and 3. But, if IGTG is saying he is willing to work on complying with this stuff, let's go with 4 and 4. Since the poll said basically said 4 was okay, let's ask IGTG since he is being asked to give and other posters aren't bothered with 4 posts.


IGTG, are you male or female? I don't really care, but I think it's a problem to label you as a female if you aren't, in fact, one.


In summary:

1) Preferrably, 3 and 3, but no more than 4 and 4. So basically, 6-8 posts in two days as a maximum.

2)Don't post the same story over and over.

3)If you talked about JFK getting shipped to Mars yesterday, vary the topic instead of then posting how he enjoyed drink Mars coconut drinks.
Basically, have some variety, not recycling the same basic story.
Now, if there is some major development, go with it. If you want to mention the Israeli Lobby just use the word Israeli don't focus on Jews or whatever. Let us make our own minds about people and issues based on the facts. Also, let us make up our minds about anything whether it's JFK or whatever story. If we decide in the end to not stand the Chinese Government over Tibet, it's not going to come by posting Tibet 10 times, you know?


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P.S. What was up with Funkdafied slamming Big Bird and stuff and that other thread? Play nicely. And Gopher, please, for the love of God, find out if IGTG is a she before we call her a she. Bacasper, yes, IGTG has the right to post conspiracy stuff if that's what he or she believes as long as it's done in a way that follows what's above.


Comments? I don't think we can collectively be anymore reasonable then that, right?

[Funkdafied]