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A nasty situation in Tongyeong
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: A nasty situation in Tongyeong Reply with quote

Something rather peculiar happened today and I would like to add this is a word of warning about teaching privates here in Korea, legally or illegally.

My Korean fiance decided to start teaching legally about two months ago because her level of English is quite high. Her neighbors were curious about getting her to teach their sons privately. She agreed and they gave her the money. Every step of the way after that was a struggle. They never made their times (showing up two or three hours late) and forced my fiance to even teach on Sunday for two hours in a row.

I was adamantly against this and everyday she would talk to me and told me how exhausted she was about the situation. I felt so utterly helpless and I knew this person was taking advantage of her.

We both agreed that this past Saturday would be the last time and she taught them the number of times necessary to equal one month. Low and behold, the woman calls my fiance on the bus as we are leaving and starts bitching her out. My fiance caves in and says she will teach them again.

I took the matter into my hands and called the woman to say that the agreement was fulfilled. That was enough. She started screaming at me over the phone and I told her to go away in so many words. She called again and again, I told her to buzz off. Afterwards, she had her high school son call my fiance and he started cursing at her.

Then she proceeded to harass my fiance's mother and father. They were demanding a refund for the books and for a total of three lessons. She also said that she wanted my address and told me that she had powerful friends in Korea that would make it difficult for me to work here.

Initially, I was freaked out by this but I knew that she was just blowing hot air and that she has no actual power. Still, I hated the fact that my soon to be in-laws were caught in the middle of this. I decided that I had to take the high road and find out how we could meet the demands of this mad woman. I transferred money over to her that equaled the amount of three lessons and the cost of their books. She said that wasn't enough and that I had to go to Tongyeong and apologize to her in person.

My fiance wrote her a text message and told her that was impossible since we are quite far away from Tongyeong. She then texted the woman telling her that her son was cursing me out. Just a few minutes ago, the woman called my fiance and apologized to her. Unbelievable. It's resolved but it has been quite a long day. Be cafeful with these people.
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freshking



Joined: 07 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a loon. You shoulda kicked her and her high school sons asses. Razz
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DrunkenMaster



Joined: 04 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never take schit of nobody Hank. Ever.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When dealing with people, that's the time to act like the crazy white man and say gibberish. Act bizarre like some people on Dave's do:) And then, your fiancee could then say you are having a nervous breakdown and she has to attend to you....
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing what foreigners put up with.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I transferred money over to her that equaled the amount of three lessons and the cost of their books. She said that wasn't enough and that I had to go to Tongyeong and apologize to her in person.

My fiance wrote her a text message and told her that was impossible since we are quite far away from Tongyeong. She then texted the woman telling her that her son was cursing me out.



Jesus Christ. I can't actually believe you settled the matter in this way - and that you tolerated some high school tool swearing at your soon to be wife. It's unfortunate that you had to experience this problem but I'm not going to mince my words; you were a p.ussy.
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rusty1983



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont get bullied man, whats next, is she gonna tell you to lick her shoes clean?
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I can't help but agree...no offense intended. Acknowledging the gripe in the first place was a huge mistake. Why were you so scared?
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anyway



Joined: 22 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the b-jesus did the woman get your in-laws numbers if you live so far away from Tongyeong? Sounds fishy...Ahhh, after re-reading I see the in-laws were the instigators of the whole situation. Good luck with your marriage...Next time, just give the money direct to the in-laws...
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyway wrote:
How the b-jesus did the woman get your in-laws numbers if you live so far away from Tongyeong? Sounds fishy...Ahhh, after re-reading I see the in-laws were the instigators of the whole situation. Good luck with your marriage...Next time, just give the money direct to the in-laws...


I would have never given them money if my future in-laws weren't so stressed about it. They live right across the street from these people and it would make their everday life there more difficult. I told the woman off and didn't worry a bit about the reprucssions. It's only when I knew they would only harass my in-laws, that I decided to give them the money.

I am very stern when it comes to my own teaching and would never allow that to happen. They make their time or they forfeit a lesson. My fiance on the other hand was being pushed around by this dominating woman. I told the woman to take a hike and instead she goes after my fiance's partents. Real mature.

My fiance lives in Tongyeong and I would go down there every other weekend to visit her. My fiance's mother is the one who setup the privates for her. That was the first mistake right there.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
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I transferred money over to her that equaled the amount of three lessons and the cost of their books. She said that wasn't enough and that I had to go to Tongyeong and apologize to her in person.

My fiance wrote her a text message and told her that was impossible since we are quite far away from Tongyeong. She then texted the woman telling her that her son was cursing me out.



Jesus Christ. I can't actually believe you settled the matter in this way - and that you tolerated some high school tool swearing at your soon to be wife. It's unfortunate that you had to experience this problem but I'm not going to mince my words; you were a p.ussy.


Aye, I told myself that I would take the high road. In retrospect, I regret settling the matter and acknowledging that she had any real gripe. I didn't want to turn my fiance's family against me. That's the only reason why I did this. Trust me.

There was nothing she actually could have done to me. However, she could have tormented my in-laws. That's why privates and family members should never mix. Don't let others get involved in your business.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By returning their tuition, you not only showed yourself to be of lower status to them, but you also lowered the value of yourself by accepting to be bullied by them.

In short, they do no respect you. However, they DO want your knowledge, & will use you like a tissue until you are no longer needed. I had one group like that once. I simply said it was our last day & they should find someone else to teach them. I did not give them an option to 'negotiate', I simply said the class was over & that was it.

I never saw them again & I personally felt much better after. Using your in-laws as an excuse isn't exactly kosher. They would have a much better appreciation if you settled the matter on your own terms.

Rule of thumb, ALWAYS be in control. If students are not happy/complaining and you think they're just being unreasonable, then remove stressful people from your lives.

Nuff said

Chicken


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funkywinkerbeans



Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your problem was intervening in your fiance's business. Seems like overprotectiveness on your part. Surely, your fiance is capable of making independent decisions without needing you to fix her mistakes.

Then you cave and allow a high school student be rude to your wife.

I don't understand your logic. Basically you handled this situation wrong from the start.
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching only privates can lead to some harrowing times, no doubt. Hell hath no fury like an ajumma who doesn't get what she wants when she wants it. They can be abusive, pushy, try to squeeze as much free stuff out of you as possible. Other times they give you cake and coffee and are very nice.

If your fiance fulfilled the terms, then you never should have backed down and sent the money. Just saying that she's too busy and doesn't have the time would have been the way to go. Apologize. If they start in on you like they did, saying how disrespectful and discourteous they are being in a hurt tone can work wonders. Hang up. When they call again, speak calmly and take the high road. If they persist, mention how their behavior will affect the way you'd teach their kids, and since you are a serious responsible teacher it is now impossible to teach them again. Block their number. Doubling the lesson fee can sometimes work, but if they agree then you're locked in for at least a few more months. Being brutally honest about the efforts being put forth by the students and using a lot of buzz words from language education (correctly) can often cow the most rabid of ajummas as well. Showing yourself to be a competent, knowledgeable teacher will stop them in their tracks. But if you've fulfilled your responsibilities and taught the required classes, never give them money. Use the money to buy one of these instead:

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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
By returning their tuition, you not only showed yourself to be of lower status to them, but you also lowered the value of yourself by accepting to be bullied by them.

In short, they do no respect you. However, they DO want your knowledge, & will use you like a tissue until you are no longer needed. I had one group like that once. I simply said it was our last day & they should find someone else to teach them. I did not give them an option to 'negotiate', I simply said the class was over & that was it.

I never saw them again & I personally felt much better after. Using your in-laws as an excuse isn't exactly kosher. They would have a much better appreciation if you settled the matter on your own terms.

Rule of thumb, ALWAYS be in control. If students are not happy/complaining and you think they're just being unreasonable, then remove stressful people from your lives.

Nuff said

Chicken


You are 100% correct. Exactly the way I should have handled it.
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