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regicide



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: New evidence suggests second shooter killed RFK Reply with quote

New evidence suggests second shooter killed RFK
David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Published: Wednesday March 26, 2008




Forty years after Democratic rising star Robert F. Kennedy was killed at a Los Angeles hotel during his presidential run, new evidence suggests the man serving a life sentence for his murder did not fire the shots that killed the charismatic senator.

Forensic scientists met at a conference in Connecticut this week to discuss their independent findings that cast serious doubt on the Kennedy assassination. Sirhan Sirhan is serving a life sentence in Kennedy's death, but the conference presenters argue he could not have fired the fatal shot that killed Kennedy.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=12554
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Existentialist Cowboy
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. �Voltaire

Evidence That the CIA Murdered RFK
Saturday, March 29, 2008

A new BBC documentary supports the conclusion that the CIA planned and executed the assassination of Robert Kennedy. The new video and photographic evidence -- the result of a three year long investigation --"puts three senior CIA operatives" at the scene of the murder.



Three of these men have been positively identified as senior officers who worked together in 1963 at JMWAVE, the CIA's Miami base for its Secret War on Castro.

David Morales was Chief of Operations and once told friends: "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard."

Gordon Campbell was Chief of Maritime Operations and George Joannides was Chief of Psychological Warfare Operations.

Joannides was called out of retirement in 1978 to act as the CIA liaison to the Congressional investigation into the JFK assassination.
Now, we see him at the Ambassador Hotel the night a second Kennedy is assassinated Rolling Eyes

--CIA role in Kennedy killing

MORE ...
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/03/evidence-that-cia-murdered-rfk.html
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just start ONE JFK thread and update that?

You'll notice I did that with a couple threads:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=101858&start=15
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=91566&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

And we do that on the evolution thread.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you paper-hanging propagandists posting this same exact story on multiple threads?
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regicide



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forty years after Democratic rising star Robert F. Kennedy was killed at a Los Angeles hotel during his presidential run, new evidence suggests the man serving a life sentence for his murder did not fire the shots that killed the charismatic senator.

Forensic scientists met at a conference in Connecticut this week to discuss their independent findings that cast serious doubt on the Kennedy assassination. Sirhan Sirhan is serving a life sentence in Kennedy's death, but the conference presenters argue he could not have fired the fatal shot that killed Kennedy.

One investigator, Dr. Robert Joling, has studied the Kennedy assassination for nearly four decades. He determined the fatal shot came from behind Kennedy, while Sirhan was four to six feet in front of the senator and never got close enough to shoot him from behind, an NBC affiliate reports.

Analysis by another forensics engineer, Philip Van Praag, of a Canadian journalists tape recording, known as the Pruszynski recording, determined that 13 shots were fired while Kennedy was killed, although Sirhan's gun only held eight bullets, according to the NBC reporter. This suggests that a second shooter was involved in the assassination.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regicide: if you have anything to say to me, please say it here. I am really not interested in responding to your pms.

Regicide wrote:
Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:03 pm

Gopher- - you are the true progagandists's [sic] agent.

Too bad you don't like the truth and you are entitle [sic] to that. You are not entitle [sic] however to tell us what we should or shouldn't do.

You may have missed it like MM2 , but this is RFK not JFK. Read the post for a change , become informed at least to it's [sic] content.


I ask that posters not post the same story on multiple threads in their repeated attempt to strong arm the rest of us into their twisted world. No more no less.

Why is confining this garbage to one thread so difficult a concept to grasp?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is based on a recent news article and includes evidence presented at a recent conference in the matter of Robert Kennedy. It is appropriately placed in the CE forum, is not about JFK and contains real news that may be interesting to the readers of this forum.

Furthermore; not everyone shares your view on the matter:



Rteacher wrote:
It seems to be more a question of aesthetics - like too many billboards on the highway ...

But these are more public service-type messages - not commercial (like real spam is.)

Neither "igotthisuitar's" nor "regicide's" threads/posts have ever bothered me - and sometimes I'm in the mood to carefully read them ...

Arbitrarily restricting the daily number of posts seems like over-regulation.


I think many others who have not spoken on the matter feel the same way.

Gopher - - you are a smart man; I admire your writing style and obvious intellectual ability. Why don�t you open your mind a little and at least consider the possibility that there is a dark side to this thing called life. I think both sides in this ongoing debate need to moderate their views and find some sort of middle ground.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
...contains real news that may be interesting to the readers of this forum.


It may be of interest to you, bacasper, RTeacher, and IGTG. That is about it. Be honest with yourself. You are haranguing the rest of us with your "dark side to this thing called life" and the rest of this conspiracy-worldview nonsense. But that is honestly not my objection.

Why not create a single thread, comparable to the "evolution" thread, streamline all of this onto it, and let everyone who is interested in it, read and contribute to it at their time and pace?

It has an added benefit: all of your information will exist on one thread thus greatly simplifying your future research endeavors.


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JMO



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does RFK not sound as good as JFK? I think we should go with BobbyK for him. Everybody agree?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
regicide wrote:
...contains real news that may be interesting to the readers of this forum.


It may be of interest to you, bacasper, RTeacher, and IGTG. That is about it. Be honest with yourself. You are haranguing the rest of us with this nonsense.


Why don't you contact these people and tell them about their nonsense?

What are your credentials Gopher? Are you an MD, forensics engineer or do you have your PHD? These people do. Are they crackpots as well?

I think I need to suggest that what you really do not like is the truth in the matter; which is not only were we lied to, but the ugly possibility that our own government was behind yet another assassination.

All one has to do is look at the facts in this matter and be open to an ugly truth. That is what you can not do. What are you afraid of , Gopher?

One investigator, Dr. Robert Joling, has studied the Kennedy assassination for nearly four decades. He determined the fatal shot came from behind Kennedy, while Sirhan was four to six feet in front of the senator and never got close enough to shoot him from behind, an NBC affiliate reports.

Analysis by another forensics engineer, Philip Van Praag, of a Canadian journalists tape recording, known as the Pruszynski recording, determined that 13 shots were fired while Kennedy was killed, although Sirhan's gun only held eight bullets, according to the NBC reporter. This suggests that a second shooter was involved in the assassination.

http://www.anopenandshutcase.com/
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Why is confining this garbage to one thread so difficult a concept to grasp?


Have you forgotten that you're addressing Whacked-Out Nut Job Conspiracy Theorists? Any logical or rational idea is difficult for them to grasp.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another ignorant closed-minded poster launching a personal attack because he is intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others and stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.

Propagandists use the name-calling technique to incite fears and arouse prejudices in their hearers in the intent that the bad names will cause hearers to construct a negative opinion about a group or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist would wish hearers to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions about a matter apart from impartial examinations of facts. Name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against the an idea or belief on its own merits.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. You've had some recent experiences with launching personal attacks, haven't you? Wonder where that post went so fast?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New evidence underscoring how a �rush to judgment� led to failed justice in the Robert F. Kennedy assassination.

This book presents, for the first time, exclusive details on the Van Praag discoveries scientifically establishing the presence of a second gun in the RFK assassination. A portion of these discoveries became the basis of a recent Discovery Times Channel television documentary. Since that time, an additional discovery adds a greater depth of verification and understanding to what occurred in that kitchen-pantry 40 years ago.

For the first time, Dr. Robert J. Joling, J.D., presents details of his almost 40 year involvement in this case. Coverage is included of meetings with key principals such as medical examiner / coroner Dr. Thomas Noguchi (who performed the autopsy on RFK), victim Paul Schrade, and various medical, police and judicial entities. As a judge, trial lawyer, friend and counsel to a number of involved parties in this case, Dr. Joling provides a unique perspective on the events and previous findings associated with the assassination.

For the first time, unique analyses of key issues of evidence are presented � such as the much-debated pantry �ceiling tiles� � that answer major questions regarding the government�s �lone gunman� position.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You remind me of the guy on campus or on a bus or train who corners people and asks..."Can I talk to you about the Bible for a moment?"

Certainly few, if any, people in the real world give you any more time than I give that guy on campus or on the bus or train. But you seem to feel as if you have a captive audience here, on this internet space. After all, you get to post your religion (and "conspiracy theory," I have decided, is just that) at will. And I notice that when you respond to others, you oftentimes add additional "information," like thrusting another pamphlet or Gideon copy into our hands before we turn away again...Must make you feel powerful.
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