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browneyedgirl
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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| Does the whole everyone-has-to-look-the-same thing go for eye color as well? I can�t imagine a child with green eyes being forced to wear brown contacts. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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This makes me think of someone all of a sudden catching to a song that was a big hit somewhere some years back or some fashion that was bad, and then discovering it. The Japanse did it at least in 2001.
I saw lots of Japanese with dyed brown hair. It is so wide-spread over there. Okay, if they are going to do that, they need to ban those double eye-lid surgeries. Why are they adopting this old idea from Japan? Anyway, the Japanese are not famous for double eye-lid surgery, now are they? If they are not, then that's being consistent. So, then it would have to be Japan and Korea are not sparkling on that issue, but don't forget a girl in Quebec was kicked out for blue hair. These things have their variations in North America. A girl wearing hijab couldn't compete in soccer. So it is really only Korea? Mind you, I don't agree with making kids carrying cards proving they have naturally curly hair. One of my kids has Danny Bonaduce type curly hair...
Check what the Japanese did in 2001
http://archive.japantoday.com/jp/popvox/82
Check this blog out about Japan:
http://myso-calledjapaneselife.blogspot.com/2007/11/brown-hair.html
While it may not seem like a big deal for someone to go from having black hair to brown, it is a sizable transition for a Japanese person and it isn't something that is wholeheartedly approved of by everyone. My student works part-time at a well-known Japanese casual wear retailer and she told me that they don't allow employees to have "light" hair. Her employer believes that customers are uncomfortable with those with brown hair because they'll perceive them as "rude" or believe they have bad attitudes.
On the one hand, the conservative posture that her employer is taking is somewhat surprising considering how many women in Japan have brown hair these days. It's not exactly rare or shocking. On the other hand, it does fit in with some of the stories I've been told about how small variations in appearance can get kids bullied in school because of the expectation that everyone should be very similar in appearance. One of my other students told me that she had slightly wavy hair as a kid and was teased mercilessly for it. To this day, she always has her hair regularly straightened because of what she went through as a kid. |
I lived in Japan for 3 years and saw more brown haired students than I thought I would see. Shogaku kids get away with anything from shocking brown to colour highlights whereas chugaku students do go for "lightened" hair color though not as prominent as the younger kids. Senior high? They do whatever the hell they want!
It is not normal for working adults to sport brown or blonde hair as a teacher, police or JR train conductor but there are some exceptions where it does work (I knew a few Japanese teachers who dye their hair white/silvery and they actually looked good). |
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Flash Ipanema
Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| It's easier to do good when you're looking good |
You're assuming that looking the same means looking good. No hairstyle looks good on every face shape. No skirt looks good on every body type. In fact, uniforms tend to be unflattering on the majority of females because the skirts and shirts are designed with a "one-size-fits-all" mentality which doesn't work well with the female body.
I think it's ridiculous:
A) to punish a student for their natural appearance because they "think" it's changed to look "non-Korean"
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B) to not allow any differences to their appearance - are pony-tails forbidden? Does everyone need the same style of glasses? Must fingernails all be cut the same length? Where does the conformity end? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Not so long ago every girl in my middle school was compelled to have straight black hair cut above the shoulders. Zero tolerance for makeup or jewelry. A few girls were in fact ordered to have naturally curly hair straightened.
A couple years ago the hair-length restrictions came off & last year they permitted simple earrings, & the girls, bless 'em, have run with it.
This year, too many infractions for the teachers to keep up with. Wavy dyed hair, cosmetics, all manner of jewelry, hiked-up skirt hems & other liberties with the uniform.
Some K-teachers view this as the root of systemic disrespect & misbehavior but I see it as these kids finally pushing for a bit of leeway & individualism. At the same time they're free to dress & appear in the more conventional mode & most still do.
The path-breakers are still nice kids & this is an overdue development. |
Last year things were starting to move in that direction. This year we have a new disciplinary teacher - a 115lbs 50-ish woman the girls are all terrified of. So far I haven't seen much in the way of make-up or curly hair. There is one who has naturally curly hair which she is allowed to keep. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Korea backwards.
It's true, Homer.
It's true. |
What makes you think Homer is here, Crusher? Now, a woman stuck on a toilet seat in the US for years with her boyfriend claiming to want to stay in the bathroom. A 17 year old was shot in Toronto on the subway. I am sure those things aren't so sparkling either. People here have legitimate complaints, but remember you are abroad and you may not be as criticial of your own particular countries and probably don't want to be so critical, and it is easy for people to go on about how Italy sucks because the trains don't run on time while they do in Paris and Berlin.
And for the poster who posted a picture of someone getting punched and saying punch the bastards, I am sure there may be a WWE type forum somewhere. This isn't it. We would appreciate your cooperation in keeping this clean, more tasteful.
Thank you.... |
Are you of the opinion that I am a Canadian apologist? There's a first time for everything.
In the past, I have been pleasantly asked by the mods to refrain from that, as well as tone down the fatass comments. However, as the majority of posters and readers, I would hazard a guess, are or were teachers in Korea, that gives a wide spectrum of comments to be made. How exactly have you made the connection between education in Korea and the instituionalised discrimination as seen with the child punished for having brown hair, and some individual fat pig that makes songtan sally look good for being on the toilet for so long? I'll answer for you, dumbass-you haven't.
Korea backwards.
It's true, Homer.
It's really true.
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| what's the opposite of sparkling? |
Japan. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| I think there maybe something in this, our cultures have had to tolerate the ginger plague for far too long. I think Korea may have provided a solution |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Flash Ipanema wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
| It's easier to do good when you're looking good |
You're assuming that looking the same means looking good. No hairstyle looks good on every face shape. No skirt looks good on every body type. In fact, uniforms tend to be unflattering on the majority of females because the skirts and shirts are designed with a "one-size-fits-all" mentality which doesn't work well with the female body.
I think it's ridiculous:
A) to punish a student for their natural appearance because they "think" it's changed to look "non-Korean"
and
B) to not allow any differences to their appearance - are pony-tails forbidden? Does everyone need the same style of glasses? Must fingernails all be cut the same length? Where does the conformity end? |
You know what I mean. I cringe when I see programs on middle schools in the US. I don't know how people can take themselves seriously in oversized t-shirts, ripped jeans, and a backwards baseball cap. Perfectly acceptable clothing on the playground or in front of the TV, but have a little class in the classroom (pun not intended at first). Yeah, kids normally don't like the uniforms, and you may find your school's uniforms don't flatter the figures of your high school students, but I don't know how people can say that a uniform doesn't look more professional than the FUBU line. |
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