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chase the dream or make the money?

 
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: chase the dream or make the money? Reply with quote

have an easy enough job that isn't anything close to real work in korea getting northwards of 3.0 krw per month or go to china and get equivalent of 2.2 million krw per month to teach the children of peasants?
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused...Your "dream" is to teach the children of peasants?

It's a nice dream, but you should aim a bit higher in life...
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...teach children of peasants or teach kids with electronic pencil boxes?

once upon a time i earned about $150 a month teaching in china. those peasant kids are great. their tenacity is something to behold. the school was one of those 7000 kids monstrosity boarding schools. they would bring in a class or two of local peasant kids and give them free tuition as a way to be in the good graces of the locals. the peasant classes were like rocky balboa x 35. beautiful stuff how they helped each other improve. i'll never forget the track and field day as each class would send out their best runners. the "normal" classes would have kids in the latest cool nikes/adidas and the peasant class champs would have the ubiquitious, cheap army green canvas shoes. not surprisingly, a good many winners that day had green canvas shoes.

the school had learned that they couldn't put peasants in with the regular rich kids, the rich kids would gang up on the peasants. so much for "classless society".

so, we would have peasant kid classes and rich kid classes. one type was sheer joy to teach and the other as gratifying as teaching in korea.

this opportunity to teach all peasant kids and get korean pay is a great opportunity. but i am conflicted to stay on the easy pile here or to go get it again in china.

rage, rage against...
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty easy decision if thats really your dream. Your going to let 800 bucks a month or so get in your way? That would be silly.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just continue to work in Korea, and send 800 a month to a designated peasant family of the month.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it is quite ironic to mention that because I personally know of several teachers in Korea who actually do send about a third of their earnings to their wives in SE Asia
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Flash Ipanema



Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm planning on one more year in Korea to support my future dream job - whatever that may be.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can do both. Figure out your dream. Then figure out a parallel path that is maybe easier. Become really good in the parallel path.

For example, I wanted to be a writer. But so does everyone including my mother. Not many "we'll pay you to be creative" jobs out there. However, I was also good with computers. Ah. Become a technical writer. After establishing myself as a tech writer, I found it much easier to transit over to "we'll pay you to be creative" writing jobs.

A friend wanted to be a teacher. Teacher's college is really hard to get into if you're a C So he became a chef. Hang on. Anyway, the cullinary industry isn't overflowing with university educated people. A C student at university is a freakin' genius in the cooking world. Anyway, after several years working in major hotels in Canada he landed a job teaching cooking at the college level. He's paid $70 an hour for a 25 hour week.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
One can do both. Figure out your dream. Then figure out a parallel path that is maybe easier. Become really good in the parallel path.

For example, I wanted to be a writer. But so does everyone including my mother. Not many "we'll pay you to be creative" jobs out there. However, I was also good with computers. Ah. Become a technical writer. After establishing myself as a tech writer, I found it much easier to transit over to "we'll pay you to be creative" writing jobs.

A friend wanted to be a teacher. Teacher's college is really hard to get into if you're a C So he became a chef. Hang on. Anyway, the cullinary industry isn't overflowing with university educated people. A C student at university is a freakin' genius in the cooking world. Anyway, after several years working in major hotels in Canada he landed a job teaching cooking at the college level. He's paid $70 an hour for a 25 hour week.

Wise and insightful words.

To the OP: from what I understand, 2.2 million won will get you much further in China than 3 million in Korea. I've never been, but from what I've heard you can live very comfortably on 1 million and save the rest, whereas in Korea you'd spend at least 2 million for a similar lifestyle (that's what I spend a month and my apartment is nothing great).
You can live your dream and live better.
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Kafkaesque



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Rage against the dying of the light. "

You answered your question yourself.

Have fun !

Franz
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Vlad Spinner



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
Actually it is quite ironic to mention that because I personally know of several teachers in Korea who actually do send about a third of their earnings to their wives in SE Asia


"Wives"--ha! That's a good one!

Care to speculate how many BKK bar girls count more than one "husband" in Farangland? "Ex" bar girls, for that matter? "Good girls," even?

Sorry, but that's the way it is. Your teacher friends should wise up.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you and it is a blossoming industry there; for women to have more than one 'husband' or 'boyfriend' who send them money to 'take care of them'.
But then again, there are many teachers in Korea who have more than one girlfriend or worse, wives......

I feel that if I earn money, it should be spent on the one person who means the most-----me.

Or I prefer to spend my money taking care of my parents, who need my help more than any woman.....that was one principle I was happy to learn from my time in Korea......................

Now back to the original post, I don't think it matters if a person is earning 3M won in Korea, 300K yen in Japan or 21K rmb in China. What really should matter is how they spent the money and if they are able and willing to saving as much of their earnings as they possibly can.
I know people who make about $120,000 a year and yet still find themselves in debt.

I think that if a person loves or finds some kind of passion in their work, they will naturally improve their ability to do it. Then from there, thats when the money starts rolling in...........
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:


To the OP: from what I understand, 2.2 million won will get you much further in China than 3 million in Korea. I've never been, but from what I've heard you can live very comfortably on 1 million and save the rest, whereas in Korea you'd spend at least 2 million for a similar lifestyle (that's what I spend a month and my apartment is nothing great).
You can live your dream and live better.


Wow! Do you sleep in a gold bed? I spend probably 700 000 a month and that's living very very comfortably. I send home 1.5 million without hassle as well. But then again I don't live in Seoul, which if I ever blacked out and banged my head and thought that'd be a great idea.....I'd have no money at all. Seoul overrated and way too expensive. IMHO!
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