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[R. S. Refugee]

As many of you know, I don't post much on this forum anymore and argue a point even less.

However, I do want to commend an analysis of the Iraq situation as one of best I've ever read.

It would be interesting to me to see what CE posters of all political stripes and beliefs have to say about this one. And I think that many with very diverse views on the war may find it very interesting.

http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_surge_is_it_soup_yet/

[Big_Bird]

Thanks RSR. Something for me to print out and read on the bus home.

[Kuros]

The first dozen paragraphs are good, but then it loses focus and desolves into a rant.

The Surge hasn't provided Iraq with enough troops to stabilize the country. The economy is still in shambles, because the administration has cut off all reconstruction funds. The fundamentals are still bad, and the Surge is sadly nothing but a political ploy to stall support for the war by the Bush administration.

Still, there's no mention of the political failures by the Iraqi Congress, nor mention of the inability of the Sunni and the Shi'a to resolve their ethnic problems. Iraq will not succeed without Iraqis making large sacrifices across ethnic lines, and I just do not see that happening.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[catman]

Many areas have been ethnically cleansed of rival factions. To try and keep this fragile peace the U.S. military has created and backed dozens of new Sunni militias, which now operate beyond the control of Iraq's central government. It is already beginning to back fire. The surge "victory" is a sham.

[patongpanda]

Ooh, it's by the War Nerd. I just can't get enough war-nerdery. Think I might buy the new book.

http://www.exile.ru/articles/list.php?IBLOCK_ID=35&SECTION_ID=156

[bucheon bum]

I read the first few paragraphs. No big surprises. yes, the bush administration poorly administered the war. haven't heard that one before.

[pkang0202]

[some waygug-in]

The saddest thing in the whole Iraq mess is the realization that "cutting and running" may just be the best solution.


It's a war that never should have been fought.


To try and justify the further waste of lives and resources by saying "well the Dems have no strategy" is just a red herring.

More lives lost and more money wasted isn't going to make things any better in Iraq. You're only hiding from the inevitable.


Back when this thing started I asked an American friend of mine for his thoughts on the Iraq war. He had spent several years in the military, so I respected his opinion... and still do.

He replied,"It isn't worth ONE life".

The whole thing is just a bad idea and it never should have been allowed to happen.

But now that it is happening, what's the best strategy?

Bush and his gang of nincompoops have made such a mess of things that I doubt anyone could come up with a good alternative to "cut and run".

But maybe that was the strategy, make a huge nightmare for the next guy to worry about and then maybe people will blame the Dems for not foreseeing a sensible way out of this mess.

[agentX]

A great find, Refugee.

[Khenan]

Here's an idea: Just completely pull out, but keep all of our troops in the near vacinity. Let them sort themselves out, and if the bad guys take over again, we can just move back in, kill them all, pull out again, and wash rinse repeat.

[greedy_bones]

cut and run seems good enough to me.

I hesitatingly support Obama. Personally, I would've preferred Kucinich or Gravel, but it'll be another 50 or so years before candidates like them have a chance of getting elected.

[R. S. Refugee]