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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
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 Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Child sex offenders will face the death penalty |
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Child sex offenders face death penalty
The government will introduce a special law to crack down on child sex offenders this year in the wake of a series of assault, kidnapping and murder cases involving elementary school girls.
The new law will stipulate harsher punishments for criminals. It will have clauses that make sure sex criminals who assault and murder children under the age of 13 are sentenced to the death penalty or life imprisonment.
The law will also prohibit the court from suspending jail terms for child sex offenders.
The Justice Ministry will subimit the bill in September when the regular parliamentary session begins. It will be named after Lee Hye-jin and Woo Ye-seul, who were found killed last month in Anyang, Gyeonggi Province after they were kidnapped in December last year.
It will be the nation's first law to take its name from crime victims.
Justice Minister Kim Kyung-han reported its plan for the legislation and other measures yesterday at a Cabinet meeting hosted by prime minister Han Seung-soo yesterday.
The ministry will also set up a special investigative team of prosecutors and police, which will operate around the clock to more effectively fight sex crimes.
In a bid to prevent the repeat of sex crimes, the ministry plans to attach an electronic device such as a tracking bracelet on people who commit sexual crimes against children for a maximum of five years, beginning in October.
Starting in September, the ministry also plans to carry out a special program to treat sex criminals behind bars with mental disorders such as pedophilia and to start establishing a database of criminals' DNA information for prompt and effective investigation.
On Monday, police apprehended the suspect who attempted last Wednesday to kidnap a 10-year-old school girl after beating her in an elevator in an apartment complex in Ilsan, Gyeonggi Province.
According to the Gyeoggi Provincial Police Agency, the 40-year-old suspect is reversing his initial statement that he intended to sexually assault her.
The suspect spent 10 years in jail after being convicted of sexually attacking three elementary school girls, the police said.
The police nabbed him at a public spa in Daechi-dong, southern Seoul after tracking his CCTV images taken at the elevator and a subway station for a train headed for Suseo, southern Seoul.
The capture of the suspect came after President Lee Myung-bak visited the Ilsan Police Station in person to criticize the negligence and late response to the abduction attempt.
Citizens praised the president's strong action on the website of Cheong Wa Dae, while some dismissed it as part of "exhibitive" administration.
"I was overwhelmed and near tears by your action. Your initiative as a president of Korea to directly visit the police gives the people hope," said a citizen, named hippo118, who posted a message on the website.
"The president should have focused on a more important task rather than going all the way down there. The politics of just showing something to the people is the limitation of President Lee," countered an anonymous poster."
By Song Sang-ho
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Wow! The gov't is moving pretty quick these days to make up for their lack of action in the past. Now they just have to get the police to catch the sickos. Maybe the LMB admin. is actually going to do something effective. It would be a shock after the useless DJ and Roh admins. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| And maybe he'll be more effective at cracking down on dissenters and immoral people while he's at it. |
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GoldMember
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
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"The law will also prohibit the court from suspending jail terms for child sex offenders"
What sort of moron Judge hands down a suspended sentence for a child sex offender.
The mere fact that you need a law to prevent these clowns er I mean Judges from doing so, says a lot about the quality of the Korean Judiciary.
My guess is the sex offenders were getting off (pardon the pun) because they attended court in a wheel chair and wore pajamas. That one seems to always work! |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| The new penalties are all well and good, but they won't matter a whit because the cops can't be bothered to get off their asses and catch these guys. |
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ryouga013
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
| My guess is the sex offenders were getting off (pardon the pun) because they attended court in a wheel chair and wore pajamas. That one seems to always work! |
Unless the wheelchair had been stolen from an elderly person and the pajamas were children's pajamas... then hopefully the CCTV would have a malfunction and the person on trial would be"disapeared" |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Let's put this into perspective.
About 4 months ago, a foreigner at a hagwon near here was accused of touching a student wrongly in class -- in front of several other students, mind you. No other students saw a thing. There was some debate as to what happened, and it appeared to be her word against his.
Seven million won in legal fees later, he had to admit fault of being a sex offender as a plea so hi s jail time would be suspended and he could be deported.
What would happen to such a guy now that there is no jail time suspension?
He was told by the lawyer that if he didn't admit fault, he would likely face the full brunt of the charges.
What if this were to happen to a person who was truly innocent?
What if a child's family was just trying to make a buck, as we wondered might be the case with the neighbor's situation (they sued the hagwon for lots of money).
I'm sorry, but the paranoia of the West over this stuff has just hit bigtime, and it has gone off of the deep end.
Would you want to be wrongly accused, and face a jail term for doing nothing but minding your own business and being falsely accused? I'm sorry, but I'll never teach in a hagwon again... EVER. No f-ing way. Not a chance in hell.
If you're a man working around kids, I think you had all better reconsider working here. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
About 4 months ago, a foreigner at a hagwon near here was accused of touching a student wrongly in class -- in front of several other students, mind you. No other students saw a thing. There was some debate as to what happened, and it appeared to be her word against his.
Seven million won in legal fees later, he had to admit fault of being a sex offender as a plea so hi s jail time would be suspended and he could be deported.
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Recall the initial reports of the story, but haven't personally seen anything since. Links to the aftermath mentioned? |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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So if caught for doing this to someone 13 or younger, you face death or life imprisonment.
if she's over 13, no worries. ok then. |
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Suwoner10
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Seriously. You teach little JiYoung, you make her write lines as a punishment, she goes home and tells mom the foreigner "touched" her.
Hello death sentence. I can't leave Korea fast enough. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| whatever wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
About 4 months ago, a foreigner at a hagwon near here was accused of touching a student wrongly in class -- in front of several other students, mind you. No other students saw a thing. There was some debate as to what happened, and it appeared to be her word against his.
Seven million won in legal fees later, he had to admit fault of being a sex offender as a plea so hi s jail time would be suspended and he could be deported.
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Recall the initial reports of the story, but haven't personally seen anything since. Links to the aftermath mentioned? |
It was a guy I knew that it happened to! FistFace knew him as well. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I have to say this first. I hate the concept of never touch your students in anyway that they teach to teachers in the west. But if you are worried about being accused of sexual abuse then they answer is never touch your students in anyway, shape or form. Never get in a situation where you will have to come close to touching them. Maintain a professional distance at all times. It is a safe and nearly foolproof way to keep yourself from being accused of wrong doing. If you get close to a student who is to say if you touched them in a bad way or not. If you are never close to students then accusations are less likely to happen. Once again, I hate this concept and do not follow it, but a lot of good teachers in the west do and are still very good teachers.
Next, false allegations happen, but they are few and far between. If society is basing their laws on the few and far between then a lot of bad, bad, people are going to get away with doing horrible things to children. This is not a law to discourage sex offenders. It is a law to keep them off the streets. It is needed in order to make kids safer. The less sex offenders that are walking around or are able to walk around the better.
The scary thing is that the determination of guilt is determined by Korean judges who are very inempt and almost as lazy as the police. The possibilty of wrongfully accused people being thrown in jail or killed exsists and that is a scary, scary thing. We have to hope that the Korean police learn to collect ALL the evidence including statements from ALL witnesses and then they learn to submit them in their police report. This is a problem. Guilt often gets decided by the police. Then we have to hope that the judges learn to take the time to read the whole police report and judge on the information in a fair and impartail manner. This law is a step in the right direction as long as the police and judges do their part to ensure that justice is served. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| whatever wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
About 4 months ago, a foreigner at a hagwon near here was accused of touching a student wrongly in class -- in front of several other students, mind you. No other students saw a thing. There was some debate as to what happened, and it appeared to be her word against his.
Seven million won in legal fees later, he had to admit fault of being a sex offender as a plea so hi s jail time would be suspended and he could be deported.
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Recall the initial reports of the story, but haven't personally seen anything since. Links to the aftermath mentioned? |
It was a guy I knew that it happened to! FistFace knew him as well. |
Scary stuff. I remember that thread. Guy seemed totally shafted. We really have to watch ourselves here...there is no legal system for us. I don't care how nice the kids are, never never touch them in any way. No hugging , no holding, no sitting on laps, nothing at any time.
Here is what I would always remember:
You are more important than the kids. To hell with them. Keep yourself safe and just follow a strict rule of behavior. If you are teaching any underage students then be careful. A lot of Koreans think western teachers are dating their high school and middle school students,too. |
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lucas_p
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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I guess one kinda has to adopt what American teachers have to do to avoid any misunderstanding and trouble:
Don't touch them in any way, no encouraging pat on the shoulder, or anything. And never be their friend. Period. |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| aye, don't touch them. I just tell them good job and let that be it. |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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You know some of the common sense advice on this thread about never touching your students in any way, shape, or form at all, was said by myself ages ago on this forum.
Believe it or not, some twisted retards on this board interpreted that as a sign of me being guilty of some kiddie-related crime myself! Sadly, as a result of those insane comments, some of my threads on this subject were deleted.
I'm just glad some of the Korean judges won't be as brainless and mentally ill as some of the posters on this forum! |
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