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Seoultrader

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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But did they really "jump the gun"? Did the original article actually say that the guys were framed, or did it just report that someone making allegations of a frame-up?
I guess the question then becomes how newsworthy the reporters in the original story should have considered the frame-up accusations. |
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Seoultrader

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Granted, no news outlet achieves the perfect balance of objectivity. However, in this case I just think they went a bit overboard in their use of one-sided source quotes. Another thing that tweaked me is the use of the word "dubious" in the headline. Then again, no big deal, really. Perhaps an overly patriotic desk editor who got cutt of by a Korean on his way to the newsroom, hehe. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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LOL want to know funny:
My buddy in Ottawa emails me and asks me if I was in on the drug thing or knew anyone who got busted.
I was WTF bro, there are more than 10 Canadians in Korea ya know.
About the first guy the OP mentioned, my money is on they will just deport his arse.
Reading this makes me think, if Korea was as strict as Singapore on the drug issue, how many news articles and discussions like this would we be having? It would prolly read the first time:
Dumbass Canadian Man, 22 gets the death penalty for importing drugs.
After that, people would be keeping as clean as a whistle. |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Mr.Pink,
I think it all depends on how much drugs were in the parcel. If it was a small amount for personal use, probably deportation. If it was a large amount intended for selling, probably prison time. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:05 am Post subject: |
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matko wrote: |
Mr.Pink,
I think it all depends on how much drugs were in the parcel. If it was a small amount for personal use, probably deportation. If it was a large amount intended for selling, probably prison time. |
Well the reason I would put money on his deportation is why should Korea waste money to put him in prison, when the time drug pushers face is so minimal compared to america/canada, added to the fact the only proof they have that it is his, is that he signed for it. |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Well, they're 'wasting' money by keeping him in prison now aren't they?
How much time do drug pushers get in Korea?
The States is harsh, but in Canada drug dealers get a slap on the wrist at best.
Me thinks Korean drug laws are WAAAAAAYYYY stricter than those of Canada. |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink wrote: |
Well the reason I would put money on his deportation is why should Korea waste money to put him in prison, when the time drug pushers face is so minimal compared to america/canada |
Give us some data please. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:38 am Post subject: |
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From talking to people that hung out with him from that area of Daegu, the package had something like 2000 tabs of E in it and it was detected, flagged and tracked somewhere along the mail's journey. He had it mailed to his school under a different name. Apparently the school had no knowledge of the situation until he went outside after signing for it and a Korean narc unit was there waiting for him. At a street value of 50,000 Won per tab, he was hoping to make a 'little' extra on the side. I also heard that the majority, if not all of the tabs were pre-sold and the money had already been transacted between him and the users. I heard 2 conflicting versions of this, so I'm not sure.
Anyways, the few people that I know that knew him, all said that he was a great person and polite almost to a fault. But took a risk and got caught.
I don't know the deportation issue. I heard from one, that he has to do a month of time here and then get deported. I also heard that he will be deported without time. Regardless, he's going to be going back home, sooner or later, just don't know when.
Of course, I don't know if all of these are facts or embellishments, but it's what I've heard over the past week, nevertheless. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Zed wrote: |
Mr. Pink wrote: |
Well the reason I would put money on his deportation is why should Korea waste money to put him in prison, when the time drug pushers face is so minimal compared to america/canada |
Give us some data please. |
If I had some hard data I would have put it in there.
I am pretty much going on what I've read in the newspapers, I remember a lot of foreigners getting off with 2-5 year sentences, but that could have also been on just buying or possession.
Yes Canada is now a slap on the wrist, but America isn't.
Again we don't know what or how much was in the box he signed for. That "i heard that" kind of stuff isn't definate. If the guy did indeed get busted when taking the box home, well those circumstances would make it seem he is pretty guilty, and I will withdraw my comment on him just getting deported. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Strange how the guy's name has been highlighted in orange in all these posts- I certainly wasn't the one who did that in mine... |
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The Lemon

Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm trying to figure out if you're kidding or not...
If you're not, here's the clue: This is because you did a search using the guy's last name. The board's software colors orange the target word in threads resulting from the search. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but back on EARTH, would the guy to whom the drugs were sent be in trouble? I mean, how can people be responsible for what another sends in the mail. So, if I have someone that I hate, I send him drugs in the mail so HE gets into trouble. What next? Junk mail porn that is sent to my email against my choice will get me in trouble. Where will it end? |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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The Lemon wrote: |
I'm trying to figure out if you're kidding or not...
If you're not, here's the clue: This is because you did a search using the guy's last name. The board's software colors orange the target word in threads resulting from the search. |
Hey neat! You learn something new every day! Honestly wasn't kidding- I thought somebody had convinced a mod to color them orange since we were all asking if anyone knew the guy...
A link to the latest thread on Noah:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=12903 |
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Vollrath
Joined: 29 May 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:39 am Post subject: busted eh? |
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My coworker was just busted today in Daegu. Apparently there's a ton of that going on right now. Please keep this thread alive with any info and/or further developments in cases like this. He too had stuff mailed to him and i don't know if he signed for it or not, but the whole apartment was turned upside down and he was gone without a trace. The cops phoned the school and we won't know anything more for up to 3 days they said. Unreal. Can we phone a lawyer? We don't even know where he is, other than he is in Seoul. The only reason why a lawyer might be helpful is that it might help to just get him deported rather than face jail time. What's the deal with all this "new zero tolerance" I'm hearing about? Like if it's really zero-tolerance, will they unquestioningly throw the book at him or will they give him a chance and just let him go home?
ARRRRGGHH--- An-joh-eun-saeng-gak-ida!!!!!!
PEOPLE!!!!! No matter what, DON'T have anyone EVER send you ANYTHING in the mail (you know what I mean). The risks are not worth it. Don't let one "success" story make you think you'll get away with it because it's a LOTTERY!!!!!! And the odds are stacked WAY against you. |
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