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Do you think the US will attack Iran before November 2008.
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Do you think the US will attack Iran?
Yes
33%
 33%  [ 8 ]
No
66%
 66%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 24

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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone who thinks the united states will attack iran while George W. Bush is President really needs to take American Politics 101.
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TML1976



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
anyone who thinks the united states will attack iran while George W. Bush is President really needs to take American Politics 101.



I thought I understood American politics but was astounded by their decision to go to Iraq. The problem with American politics after 9/11 was that it was ideologically based and driven. That, I believe, is the reason they decided to go to Iraq. Unfortunately that kind of politics is very irrational and can, as we see now, get you into a lot of trouble. Not unlike the politics of Islamic gov't of Iran or the policies of Israel vis-�-vis the Palestinians.

Now, I would agree with you that the US will not attack Iran mainly due to the fact that it has become more realistic, more rational and far less ideological. However, the fear is that the ideologues, which still yield considerable power in Whitehouse, can somehow start another war.

Most decisions in politics happen in the vast expanse of grey that lies in between the tiny strips of black and white.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point, 11 of 16 have voted 'no'. Have any of the 'yes' voters heard something recently the rest of us haven't? Or is this just a generic the-US-is-a-boogey-man thread?
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US military has fallen into a state of severe disrepair.

~ All functioning equipment is now being used for the war effort.
~ A severe lack of sufficient equipment to do training.
~ A lack of funds to support a quick, massive mobilzation of forces needed to fight a war of that magnitude.
~ A public's lack of will to deal with another debacle where the pentagon powers-that-be have no entrance and no exit strategy, like what we see in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
~ Lack of sufficient operational and logistical planning for such a venture.
~ STRONG LACK OF PUBLIC OPINION- "no more coffins for oil" is the slogan now.

I think that if the US were to launch some kind of attack on Iran (which is highly unlikely since even the outgoing CENTCOM commander himself even strongly objected to any such adventure)- I think we might see something like a 'mutually assured destruction' type of scenerio in that the US would treat Iran as an example of what a nation will get if they try to tip the balance of power away from the US.
Such strategies have been discussed with the French, who even said they would have no problem with using their nuclear arsenal against Iran. And Sunni nations like Saudi Arabia and the GCC states have said they would turn a blind eye to what happens to their Shiite neighbor to the north.
I think there will be 2 obstacles to that kind of strategy.

- The fact that radical groups, such as Al Qeada, would use a nuclear attack as their rallying cry to fight the west using terrorism.

- I really think Russia and China would come to the rescue of Iran for the simple reason that it would balance the fight and that they want to protect their interests in Iran (Also, the Iranian aid that is given to the fighters in Iraq is useful in that it keeps the US busy while both Russia and China use the time to revamp and modernize their militaries to the point they can match the US)

The US and the world has alot to lose if the US starts a war with Iran, alot more than it did when it fought in Iraq.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted no because its not likely the US will go to war with Iran until this Iraq matter is settled.

HOWEVER,

If the US has proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that Iran is intentionally fueling the unrest in Iraq, then yes, I can see the US going into Iran.

Its like this, the US keeps stomping out fires while Iran keeps lighting new ones. Eventually, the US is going to say "Enough is Enough" and knock Iran out cold.

They just need to catch Iran with the lighter, red handed, so the rest of the world will agree that the attack was the right course of action.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't EFL claim Bush wasn't going to give up the presidency and launch an attack on Iran and suspend elections?
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are certainly those within the administration who want to attack Iran. I would hope that they would be out flanked this time.

All of the rhetoric would make one believe that this is the plan- maybe one of their "shock and awe" strikes that would deal with Iran in a short time. We sure know how that story ends.

Personally, as someone living a couple of hundred miles from Iran, I sure hope the answer is no. Shocked
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