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Khenan
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And say what you will about his presidency, he was a resounding success as Governor of Texas, receiving praise from all quarters. I know: I lived in Austin at the time.
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All quarters? In Austin? Pretty sure not. Everyone I know from Texas hates him and hated him.
Resounding success? Oh, you mean at executing black people. Yeah, he was a resoundiing success at that. Good point. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
Wow! REALLY???  You are a ditto head! I think maybe Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or FDR are the best presidents?
But, I guess writing the Constitution, saving the union, ending slavery, defeating the Nazi's, being the first president of our great nation are less important than tickle down economics. |
Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson all deserve their place in history but your beloved FDR, who was a greedy Wall Streeter to begin with, initiated the Great Depression with his Raw Deal reforms. How quickly you forget that Ronald Reagan gave reasons for Americans a reason to be proud of their country again after the failures in Vietnam and the Jimmy Carter fiasco. He also stared down the USSR and freed half a continent from the tyranny of communism. Seems like a pretty damn good president to me.
Also, in 1984, the question was asked is your life better than it was four years ago. The answer was a resounding YES.
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Pluto wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
Wow! REALLY??? You are a ditto head! I think maybe Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or FDR are the best presidents?
But, I guess writing the Constitution, saving the union, ending slavery, defeating the Nazi's, being the first president of our great nation are less important than tickle down economics. |
Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson all deserve their place in history but your beloved FDR, who was a greedy Wall Streeter to begin with, initiated the Great Depression with his Raw Deal reforms. |
Initiated the Great Depression?
The Depression started in 1929, Roosevelt wasn't elected until 1933. Depression was started under a Republican, sorry. Hoover was famous for the towns name after him, Hoovervilles?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooverville
The re-election map of the four term FDR is equally as impressive.
Don't get me wrong there are things I like about Reagen but "the best president ever" no. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Pluto wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
Wow! REALLY??? You are a ditto head! I think maybe Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or FDR are the best presidents?
But, I guess writing the Constitution, saving the union, ending slavery, defeating the Nazi's, being the first president of our great nation are less important than tickle down economics. |
Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson all deserve their place in history but your beloved FDR, who was a greedy Wall Streeter to begin with, initiated the Great Depression with his Raw Deal reforms. |
Initiated the Great Depression?
The Depression started in 1929, Roosevelt wasn't elected until 1933. Depression was started under a Republican, sorry. Hoover was famous for the towns name after him, Hoovervilles?
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Truth is, Hoover had very little to do with the depression. The Depression was the result of a botched Federal Reserve currency policy. This is by the current Fed chief's own admission. FDR had no trust in free markets, meaning he had no trust in free peoples. His policies turned just about everyone in the country into a government dependent. Of course, he and his democrat buddies in Congress would come back and steal the fruits of the peoples' labor with the income tax. FDR took the taxes and redistributed the money how he saw fit; you should know fat cats on Wall Street profited enormously from his policies. Had FDR let the market correct itself, the depression of 1929 would not have been the Great Depression of the 1930's. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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"The C-SPAN Survey of Presidential Leadership was a 1999 survey of academic historians. It found that historians consider Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Franklin D. Roosevelt the three best presidents by a wide margin"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents
A 2000 survey by The Wall Street Journal consisted of an "ideologically balanced group of 132 prominent professors of history, law, and political science". This poll sought to include an equal number of liberals and conservatives in the survey, as the editors argued that previous polls were dominated by either one group or the other, but never balanced. According to the editors, this poll included responses from more women, minorities, and young professors than the 1996 Schlesinger poll. The editors noted that the results of their poll were "remarkably similar" to the 1996 Schlesinger poll, with the main difference in the 2000 poll being the lower rankings for the 1960s presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy, and higher ranking of President Ronald Reagan at #8. Franklin Roosevelt still ranked in the top three. |
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flummuxt
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| "There's an old saying in Tennessee � I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee � that says, fool me once, shame on � shame on you. Fool me � you can't get fooled again." |
�President George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
To listen:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushism-foolme.htm
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"This morning my administration released the budget numbers for fiscal 2006. These budget numbers are not just estimates; these are the actual results for the fiscal year that ended February the 30th." |
--George W. Bush, on the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://youtube.com/watch%3Fv=NmX23l0ouo8 |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Khenan wrote: |
| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
And say what you will about his presidency, he was a resounding success as Governor of Texas, receiving praise from all quarters. I know: I lived in Austin at the time.
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All quarters? In Austin? Pretty sure not. Everyone I know from Texas hates him and hated him.
Resounding success? Oh, you mean at executing black people. Yeah, he was a resoundiing success at that. Good point. |
He also had great success at impersonating the woman on death row before she was executed. When asked what she had said to him, he mockingly replied, "Please, don't kill me." |
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