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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Don't forget that is was wal-mart, the cheapest you can get for clothes. In retrospect I should have waited to buy them back here.
In regards to the Bachelors vs skills, I think we all had the experience in high school where it was ingrained in us that only winners go to university while underachievers or people going nowhere in life go to college. I think we all beleived that the Bachelors magically opens doors while those who learned a trade won't have any success.
I think it has a lot to do with the post and pre 9/11 things too. When I started Uni in 1998, our schools newsletters were full off all these great jobs with the government and large corporations in Toronto. But when I visited the school in 2006, the same newsletter was full of 'rewarding careers at call centers' and the like. |
Sorry? I don't see how 9/11 fits into your thinking. More details please. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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Millions of people are doing just fine in Canada. The baby boomers are getting older and moving out of the work force. There are many jobs opening and will continue to open for some time. There are many oldtimers who can't retire because there is no one who will or can take their jobs. You have to get skills, work hard and improve yourself if you want to do well at anything.
--Don't hide here kissing Korean butt for years while telling yourself you have no choice. It is possible to go back home and do well. English teaching is not a job for a man or woman, and it is not a career to be proud of. Babysitting bastard children while sucking up to their demon mothers is not a lifetime occupation. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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When I go back to Canada I stay at my sister's place, drive her, my brother-in-law's, or my parent's car, may buy some groceries but mostly eat stuff my relatives have made, and dad or uncle will no doubt pick up the bill if I go out to eat with my relatives. Yet, I find that after two weeks, almost a thousand bucks has escaped from my wallet. Take a look at a typical, reasonably nice but not relatively expensive, Canadian restaurant:
http://www.earls.ca/food_burgers.asp
Let's say I want to treat my friend I haven't seen in a year, who's a mortgage slave on a tight budget, to dinner and a few drinks.
Warm Feta and Spinach Dip Starter: $9.00
Bacon Cheddar 1/2 Pound Burger: $12.50
Grilled Chicken Clubhouse: $12.25
2 Cocktails: $11.00
So that's $44.75 for a standard, nice but nothing special meal. But wait, there's GST and PST. So now we're looking at $50.58. But wait, there's the generous tip, lest we look like Arabs or Mennonites. 15% will round up to about an even $58, and three more twenties disappear from my wallet. We're fairly full but no where close to being drunk and I've spent W56,000, about what it would cost for four friends to enjoy smoked duck and plenty of beer in Korea. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| If you think that's bad try going out on Queen street west in Toronto. The yuppies have taken over and everyone expects to get tipped. It's called Gentrification. The bar where they filmed "The Last Pogo" The famous punk rock movie is asking over 20$ for a small pitcher of beer. |
Queen Street West is prime clubbing district (its sort of spread out from RIchmond and Adalade) so that's understandable... Try College between St. George and Spadina next time  |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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OP - How many clothes did you buy??...
Meal at McDonalds - $10 bucks tops...
New Keyboard - $20 - $50 depending... Maybe $100 but that's pushing it...
So... $350 worth of clothing?... That would be like 35 t-shirts, lol... |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| *beep* Canada. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
When I go back to Canada I stay at my sister's place, drive her, my brother-in-law's, or my parent's car, may buy some groceries but mostly eat stuff my relatives have made, and dad or uncle will no doubt pick up the bill if I go out to eat with my relatives. Yet, I find that after two weeks, almost a thousand bucks has escaped from my wallet.
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wtf you'd have to be spending $60 on dinner every day.
I miss Canada. I'm surprised. I can't wait to go back in a couple years and slip into one of those recently vacated baby boomer jobs. |
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mikowee
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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| In Canada now and soon to be employed by one of the more prestigious tech companies. Plenty of jobs in software nowadays. |
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Spryguy
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| In Canada now and soon to be employed by one of the more prestigious tech companies. Plenty of jobs in software nowadays. |
I'm cursed because I'm good at what I hate, sales.
I hate sales jobs and never want to do it again. But it's where all the money is.
Give me a cushy desk job at 50k a year with benefits and a competent staff, and I'll be happy camper.
You don't need to make a million dollars a year to retire a millionaire. |
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JerBear
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| actually I find clothes MUCH cheaper in Canada then in Korea. |
Sounds like they're cheaper in the states too. $350 (the Canadian and US currencies are now valued at about the same $1 US = $1 CAD, more or less) would keep me in jeans and t-shirts galore at home in Texas...more than I could possibly wear.
The US is also experiencing many teacher shortages. Have you considered moving there? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| mikowee wrote: |
| In Canada now and soon to be employed by one of the more prestigious tech companies. Plenty of jobs in software nowadays. |
Where in Canadia? |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| teachteach wrote: |
Don't forget that is was wal-mart, the cheapest you can get for clothes. In retrospect I should have waited to buy them back here.
In regards to the Bachelors vs skills, I think we all had the experience in high school where it was ingrained in us that only winners go to university while underachievers or people going nowhere in life go to college. I think we all beleived that the Bachelors magically opens doors while those who learned a trade won't have any success.
I think it has a lot to do with the post and pre 9/11 things too. When I started Uni in 1998, our schools newsletters were full off all these great jobs with the government and large corporations in Toronto. But when I visited the school in 2006, the same newsletter was full of 'rewarding careers at call centers' and the like. |
Well plus c'est change I suppose but when I did my BA people were already openly contemptuous of arts degrees and questioning the point of anything not directly related to vocational training.
You know what, they had a point: I should have avoided university altogether and trained as a plumber or something just for financial security.
But at least I never had any illusions about it and I'm glad I studied for the right reasons: pure academic interest. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| teachteach wrote: |
Don't forget that is was wal-mart, the cheapest you can get for clothes. In retrospect I should have waited to buy them back here.
In regards to the Bachelors vs skills, I think we all had the experience in high school where it was ingrained in us that only winners go to university while underachievers or people going nowhere in life go to college. I think we all beleived that the Bachelors magically opens doors while those who learned a trade won't have any success.
I think it has a lot to do with the post and pre 9/11 things too. When I started Uni in 1998, our schools newsletters were full off all these great jobs with the government and large corporations in Toronto. But when I visited the school in 2006, the same newsletter was full of 'rewarding careers at call centers' and the like. |
Well plus c'est change I suppose but when I did my BA people were already openly contemptuous of arts degrees and questioning the point of anything not directly related to vocational training.
You know what, they had a point: I should have avoided university altogether and trained as a plumber or something just for financial security.
But at least I never had any illusions about it and I'm glad I studied for the right reasons: pure academic interest. |
and you would have had to have been a a plumber. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| actually I find clothes MUCH cheaper in Canada then in Korea. |
Sounds like they're cheaper in the states too. $350 (the Canadian and US currencies are now valued at about the same $1 US = $1 CAD, more or less) would keep me in jeans and t-shirts galore at home in Texas...more than I could possibly wear.
The US is also experiencing many teacher shortages. Have you considered moving there? |
Ahhh the great North South comparison... While its true that our dollar's are now on par, the fact is that we Canadians get to pay taxes on a level that would make you Southern guys and gals cry in your cheap beers  ... With the expection of certain food, in Ontario we pay 13% tax on everything we buy... But, on the flip side, we don't have to worry about our HMOs not covering a broken arm ... |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Americans pay taxes. They are just hidden taxes that people don't see. |
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