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Adventurer
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 Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: 76% of Americans are ready for a black pres.. |
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From Paul Steinhauser
CNN Deputy Political Director
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The number of Americans who believe that the country is ready for a black president is rising, a poll released Thursday suggested.
Sen. Barack Obama campaigns Thursday in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
More than three quarters, 76 percent, of respondents in a CNN/Essence Magazine/Opinion Research Corp. poll said the country is ready to be led by an African-American, up 14 percentage points since December 2006.
Some of the rise can be attributed to the success of Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential primaries, said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.
The poll also indicates that more whites than blacks think the country is ready for a black president. Of the white Americans surveyed, 78 percent said the country is ready, as opposed to 69 percent of African-Americans polled. Both numbers are up substantially from December 2006.
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regicide
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Location: United States
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: 76% of Americans are ready for a black pres.. |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
Read CHART
From Paul Steinhauser
CNN Deputy Political Director
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The number of Americans who believe that the country is ready for a black president is rising, a poll released Thursday suggested.
Sen. Barack Obama campaigns Thursday in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
More than three quarters, 76 percent, of respondents in a CNN/Essence Magazine/Opinion Research Corp. poll said the country is ready to be led by an African-American, up 14 percentage points since December 2006.
Some of the rise can be attributed to the success of Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential primaries, said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.
The poll also indicates that more whites than blacks think the country is ready for a black president. Of the white Americans surveyed, 78 percent said the country is ready, as opposed to 69 percent of African-Americans polled. Both numbers are up substantially from December 2006.
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I can not believe this. I don't care if CNN is a reputable organization, those numbers just don't seem right.
Come on- - OP, do you really expect us to believe this? |
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pkang0202
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Come on now. Do you honestly think people are going to openly say "I don't want a black president" to a poll or anyone else?
They are going to say whatever they want to say so they can be politically correct, but when it comes time to vote in that private little booth with no cameras, microphones, its going to be a different story.
Its like this guy's family I used to know back home. He was white and his parents were so open and about race and equality until one day he brought a black girl home as his girlfriend.
Lets just say his parents weren't quite as open about race as everyone thought they were. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Once America goes black, they won't got back. Okay, that was a joke...
I think Hillary Clinton made it more palatable for people to vote for
a black president. According to that poll CNN had, support increased from 60 to 76%. Why not? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Regicide and PK both have some good points. The poll was pretty evenly split among African-Americans and white people. Was that how the poll was structured or just luck? PK mentioned people might be embarrassed to admit the truth that they wouldn't vote for an AA. That could be as well.
I do think a fair number of white people are going to vote for Obama regardless of race. Yes, there are some people who would never vote for him because of race. Sadly it happens, but in my personal opinion those people are a lost cause.
I don't know if the poll is genuine or not. It might be really difficult to get an accurate number given the sensitivity of the issue. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| I don't find those numbers hard to believe. They could well be true. It would be nice to see more than the results of one poll, though. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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What I want to know is how many Amerkans are ready for a WHITE president. Just because that's all we've had during the lifetime of the republic doesn't mean that everyone's always "been ready" for it, now does it?
Possibly more like "couldn't avoid it no matter how great the imperative" sorta thing, don't you think? |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
I think Hillary Clinton made it more palatable for people to vote for
a black president |
Nailed it.
I watched CNN's Situation Room this morning before work and according to a poll, people would be happier voting for a black person than a woman. The conclusion - rightly - was that people would not simply sooner vote for a black person than a woman per se, but rather vote for a black person, or anyone, perhaps a piece of lemon peel, than this particular woman.
The Clintons are divisive, so much so that Dems will vote McCain over Hilary, since McCain is a de facto liberal (and maverick Republican) in many ways.
I want to see Hillary get the nomination, guaranteeing victory for McCain. Hillary's naked ambition is foul to all and sundry save Clinton-worshippers. She has the most incoherent position on Iraq of the three. She voted for it and, when it became politically expedient to do so, was all "bring the boys home". Obama at least voted against it in the first place. McCain is equally consistent, having voted for it and wanting to stay for as long as it takes. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Come on now. Do you honestly think people are going to openly say "I don't want a black president" to a poll or anyone else?
They are going to say whatever they want to say so they can be politically correct, |
Not many people had a problem expressing their bigotry when asked about a Mormon being president.
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| but when it comes time to vote in that private little booth with no cameras, microphones, its going to be a different story. |
Yep. It's the action, not the verbiage, that is of import.
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Its like this guy's family I used to know back home. He was white and his parents were so open and about race and equality until one day he brought a black girl home as his girlfriend.
Lets just say his parents weren't quite as open about race as everyone thought they were. |
Yep. I know a few people like that. Stuck in the 60s, the 1860s. Did his parents trot out that asinine line, "The robin doesn't mate with the blue jay"? |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| They are going to say whatever they want to say so they can be politically correct, but when it comes time to vote in that private little booth with no cameras, microphones, its going to be a different story. |
And yet 14 million of them have already voted for Obama in the primary, more than have voted for the white person. Any explanation for that? |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Hillary's naked ambition is foul to all and sundry save Clinton-worshippers. |
Ah, the old 'if you don't agree with me, your position is based on propaganda / being a blind sheep' argument.
*Yawn*
All Hillary haters: We continue to support Hillary because of you. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Not many people had a problem expressing their bigotry when asked about a Mormon being president. |
Except that being against a religion isn't perceived as quite the same sort of bigotry as being against a particular race. And justifiably so. A person's choice of religion can be viewed, to some degree, as a window into their personality.
I have nothing against Mormons, and would vote for one without hesitation if I liked his policies. But I can think of some religions whose followers I would likely never cast a ballot for, simply because they belonged to that faith. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Obama at least voted against it in the first place. |
Not to nitpick, but Obama wasn't in congress in 2003, so he did not vote for or against it. He did speak out against it though. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Come on now. Do you honestly think people are going to openly say "I don't want a black president" to a poll or anyone else? |
Obama did quite well in Iowa, a state that is 94% (?) white. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Not many people had a problem expressing their bigotry when asked about a Mormon being president. |
Except that being against a religion isn't perceived as quite the same sort of bigotry as being against a particular race. And justifiably so. A person's choice of religion can be viewed, to some degree, as a window into their personality.
I have nothing against Mormons, and would vote for one without hesitation if I liked his policies. But I can think of some religions whose followers I would likely never cast a ballot for, simply because they belonged to that faith. |
Do tell? Which religions? |
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