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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject:

When I'm 30 I'm going to become an illegal immigrant to Europe. I mean I'm not black so it will be harder to tell I don't belong there. I wish EU work permits were easier to get than they are. And Estonia. Estonia is great!!! Oslo is a dud, but its the only place I've been in Norway.

Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject:

nicholas_chiasson wrote:

When I'm 30 I'm going to become an illegal immigrant to Europe. I mean I'm not black so it will be harder to tell I don't belong there. I wish EU work permits were easier to get than they are. And Estonia. Estonia is great!!! Oslo is a dud, but its the only place I've been in Norway.

Italy and Spain 'hire' mad North American illegals...those are your best bets....

nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:

I don't mean ESL I mean actual slumming it Ukranian Crack Ho style.

samd

Joined: 03 Jan 2007

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject:

Move to Norway and start venting/trolling on Sven's ESL Cafe after a couple of months...

Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:21 am Post subject:

samd wrote:

Move to Norway and start venting/trolling on Sven's ESL Cafe after a couple of months...

Unlikely. Why do you love Korea?

Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:22 am Post subject:

nicholas_chiasson wrote:

I don't mean ESL I mean actual slumming it Ukranian Crack Ho style.

I truly feel for those without an EU passport, since TEFL work in Europe is nigh impossible (and with good reason, since Brits and Irish satisfy the demand), but, yeah, take a big vacation in Europe. Nothing preventing that.

Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:24 am Post subject:

Justin Hale wrote:

nicholas_chiasson wrote:

I don't mean ESL I mean actual slumming it Ukranian Crack Ho style.

Believe me, when I finally got my Hungarian passport earlier this year, I was ecstastic over it. I still am. It's a ticket to the future.

Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:29 am Post subject:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

nicholas_chiasson wrote:

I don't mean ESL I mean actual slumming it Ukranian Crack Ho style.

Believe me, when I finally got my Hungarian passport earlier this year, I was ecstastic over it. I still am. It's a ticket to the future.

Good luck to you, sir, since Europe is home to all manner of dark pleasures that doth delight the soul. Like you, I'm done with Korea in August, and where better to serve Mighty Lucifer than in Europe and its magnificence and transcendence?

Dome Vans
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:56 am Post subject:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

I'm definitely a Scandinaviaphile. I've only ever been to Denmark alas. I think I'd prefer the girls in Korea and the milder winter, but I can think of no other reason at all. I'd love to learn Norwegian and needless to say a conversation with a Norwegian would be substantially less likely to yield the kind of utterly base gibberish Koreans come out with. Laughing

Du kan snakker Norsk. It's extremely easy.

Jajjamensan! Jag snacka svensk. Norsk �r 70% svenska spr�ket, s� jag har igen problem o snacka med Norsk folk.

I lived in Sweden for four years, and like Norway a beautiful country but so bloody expensive. In fact Norway is more expensive. Like Yu Bum suk said Bergen and Oslo are beautiful places to go. Highly recommended but you'll need to have cash to live there for any length of time.

Scandinavia is where I'm heading back to in 3 years. I'm gonna stay in Korea for a couple of years. See this bit, then I wanna settle down and have a family, so Scandinavia the place I've identified to settle down. The perks for families are excellent and it's still very much a family orientated country. That's what I want. I have no wish to settle down in England because it's very family unorientated. Going back to teach there is how I can do it.

I'm a British citizen so it's pretty easy for me to get residency. My current residency in Sweden has another 5 years to run because my boss wrote me a contract for ten years. Hehe!

Although I lived in Budapest for a month when I was doing my CELTA, but there's no money in teaching there. I would love to go back so we'll see. Beautiful country and people, especially the ladies.

Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:10 am Post subject:

Justin Hale wrote:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

nicholas_chiasson wrote:

I don't mean ESL I mean actual slumming it Ukranian Crack Ho style.

Believe me, when I finally got my Hungarian passport earlier this year, I was ecstastic over it. I still am. It's a ticket to the future.

Awesome post!

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:13 am Post subject:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

Danish are more easy going but Danish is one of the ugliest languages on the planet.... Confused

Interesting. Danish is kind of a parent language to English, as Anglo-Saxon, or Old English, married with Danish when the Danes settled in North West England (after their big fight with King Alfred) and eventually intermarried with loads of Georgie chavs. It changed the English language in a big way, and made the grammar much easier. Wink

Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:14 am Post subject:

Dome Vans wrote:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

Du kan snakker Norsk. It's extremely easy.

I lived in Iceland for 4 months. I liked it but its 'insular nature' Wink

was a bit much at times. Like I said I like the Danish the most but the Danish language is hideously ugly. Long term for me: Netherlands, Scandinavia, Hungary...and others possibly. Wait and see; if my plans work out I will be stuck in the UK for the next 4 to 5 years doing advanced degrees so...

Good on you for wanting to actively propagate your DNA. You have a Swedish repository of mitochondrial DNA for this purpose?

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Miles Rationis

Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:36 am Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

Miles Rationis wrote:

Justin Hale wrote:

Danish are more easy going but Danish is one of the ugliest languages on the planet.... Confused

You are partially correct. Old Danish had a large influence on Old English, including lexis, morphology as well as syntax but Old Danish was simply Old Norse with a Danish twist. Modern Danish bears very little resemblance to Old Danish, particularly with the massive influx of lexical items from Low German by way of Hanseatic economic influence.

In all continental Scandinavian languages the suffixes -hed, -ing, etc are Low German in origin, even though they form part of the productive aspects of the language.

Old Norse was quite close to Old English, though morphologically more complex:

cf. OE Se man geaf thaem cyninge thaet hors.

ON Mathrin gaf koninginum hestin.

M.Eng. The man gave the king the horse.

Where they differ, apart from obvious phonological differences is in the specific morphology of the definite article and case system. OE dative -e vs. ON dative -i; the definite article is suffixed to the end of a noun in ON and in modern Scandinavian provided it stands alone without an adjective and OE has it preceding the noun. It was mix ups like this that led to heavy morphological leveling and eventually to Modern English.

Still more interesting was the degree of lexical competition which took place in the Middle English period (ca.1100-1500) with word pairs such as OE niman vs. ON taka, OE giefan vs. ON giva, OE eyr vs. ON egg; in each of the examples mentioned the Old Norse word won out. Somtimes they coexist today as with OE shirt vs. ON skirt. Monosyllabic words in English that begin with the sk- (voiceless fricative followed by voiceless plosive) usually have a Danish origin as with skill, skull, etc.

Truly a fascinating story and one which I was privileged to study in great depth.

Dome Vans
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:49 am Post subject:

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I lived in Iceland for 4 months. I liked it but it's 'insular nature' Wink was a bit much at times. Like I said I like the Danish the most but the Danish language is hideously ugly. Long term for me: Netherlands, Scandinavia, Hungary...and others possibly. Wait and see; if my plans work out I will be stuck in the UK for the next 4 to 5 years doing advanced degrees so...

Oh the insular nature. Nothing bad ever happens. Very nice nationalism though. Which I've always found interesting because the Scandinavians have historically been such an aggressive blood thirsty bunch.

I've always wanted to go up to Iceland, think the idea of it never getting dark in the summer must be......weird. My friend went and his photos were amazing. In Stockholm the best was dusk on Midsummer, it never quite got dark. Ahh, them was the days.

The strange thing with the language especially Danish is how guttural it is. The melody from Denmark is so up and down. The south of Sweden, Sk�ne area is very up and down but nowhere near as bad as Denmark, I found it difficult to understand Sk�ne folk sometimes. Then by the time you get to Lapland there is no melody, it's flat. Really should have done some more research and find out why because it's certainly very interesting.

spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:01 am Post subject:

I am of Norwegian antecedence, from Oslo Fjord.

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