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Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

I don't really believe in the Devil since I am an atheist and an anti-theist, but I use Mighty Lucifer as my metaphor for my personal ethics. Satan is the god of the ego, narcissism, hedonism, pleasures of the flesh, striving for constant bliss, perversions and material possessions in this, our only, life.

I gotta say, I've led rather a spoilt life, with pleasures of the flesh never few. It works. All these theists making sacrifices in the here and now for the sake of the afterlife are out of their minds. It doesn't matter in any case, since if all that rot is true, I can repent and Jesus will save my soul! Mr. Green

Big_Bird · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject:

Neither option is appropriate for me. You only included two ends of the spectrum. What about us part-time hedonists?

Ginormousaurus · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

Justin Hale, you are my new favorite poster. And, you bet your ass, I serve Lucifer.

Big_Bird · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject:

Perhaps he better watch his ass? Twisted Evil

Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

I voted yes, only because by not serving a bronze age sun god (better known as the god of the bible) I am technically in the service of satan. And apparently you can serve the bronze age sun god (catholics, mormons) and STILL be serving mighty satan. You can make your Pascal's Wager and still mess up.

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JustJohn · Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Location: Your computer screen

I lol'd. Nice title.

flakfizer · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject:

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Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

Hitchens totally destroyed Flakfizer's absurd and obscene conception of morality in God is Not Great: Why Religion Poisons Everything.

flakfizer · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject:

Huh? I never said all moral codes are based on theism.

ED209 · Joined: 17 Oct 2006

flakfizer · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject:

Underwaterbob · Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito

ED209 · Joined: 17 Oct 2006

Many would see these morals as forming in societies as part of their survival. That a society that cooperates and relies on trust will survive longer than a society that cheats itself. There is that golden rule often repeated by religious figures 'do unto others'. Here we have a social contract where we cause no harm so long as no harm is done to us. And if harm is done to us then we have the backing of others to bring the perpetrator to justice. Although there will always come along one person who tries to cheat the system to get ahead. Just look at your hagwon boss.

Most of what we call immoral behaviour threatens the terms of the contract. We protect our neighbours in the hope that they will do the same for us. You can link this to evolution or anthropology or whatever you like. But if you say religion, well what do you really believe came first religion or morality?