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Korean Nazi makeup campaign sparks outrage
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samurai is the term for a warrior class. Nazi is a term for a political ideaology. Big friggen difference.

Some people here also fail to realize its not just about Jews. The Polish, and Russian suffered horrible attrocities under the Nazi occupation
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
Samurai is the term for a warrior class. Nazi is a term for a political ideaology. Big friggen difference.

Some people here also fail to realize its not just about Jews. The Polish, and Russian suffered horrible attrocities under the Nazi occupation


it ended up being the same thing. Their ideology was the belief that they were the race destined to take over Asia and beyond. The Japanese were bent on world domination and they had the most modern and powerful army of any country in the world at that time. The Imjin war was a world war,with countries like Thiland sending some men to fight.

The Imjin war did not expand to include more countries because the Japanese were stopped in Korea. The Koreans achieved what the Poles could not in WWII. The samurai would have committed more atrocities if they had not been stopped in Korea.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samurai (侍, Samurai?) is the term for the military nobility of pre-industrial Japan. The word samurai is derived from the archaic Japanese verb samorau, changed to saburau, meaning "to serve"; thus, a samurai is a servant, i.e. the servant of a lord.

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sam�u�rai Audio Help /ˈs�mʊˌraɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sam-oo-rahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
�noun, plural -rai. Japanese History. 1. a member of the hereditary warrior class in feudal Japan.
2. a retainer of a daimyo.


Na�zi Audio Help /ˈnɑtsi, ˈn�t-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[naht-see, nat-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -zis, adjective
�noun 1. a member of the National Socialist German Workers' party of Germany, which in 1933, under Adolf Hitler, seized political control of the country, suppressing all opposition and establishing a dictatorship over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people, and promulgated belief in the supremacy of Hitler as F�hrer, aggressive anti-Semitism, the natural supremacy of the German people, and the establishment of Germany by superior force as a dominant world power. The party was officially abolished in 1945 at the conclusion of World War II.
2. (often lowercase) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.
3. Sometimes Offensive. (often lowercase) a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.: a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; tobacco nazis trying to ban smoking.
�adjective 4. of or pertaining to the Nazis.

The term Nazi is derived from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, [5] the official German language name of the National Socialist German Workers Party (commonly known in English as the Nazi Party). Party members rarely referred to themselves as Nazis, and instead used the official term, Nationalsozialisten (National Socialists). The word mirrors the term Sozi,[13] a common and slightly derogatory term for members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands).[14] When Adolf Hitler took power, the use of the term Nazi almost disappeared from Germany, although it was still used by opponents in Austria.

Komerican YOU are full of shiet. You have nop clue what you are talking about. Samurai were around for centuries where as Nazi's weren't

Samurai is not an political ideaology dedicated to killing inoscent Koreans.

You are an ignoranous. Or a sock or a Korean pretending to be an american.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the poster Smee said elsewhere its not the first time they have glamorised the Nazis. It�s a regular and common thing.

Korea is a developed country and should understand what portraying of this imagery means and denotes.

Komerican you say that this is a question of sensibilities being respected well lets come at it from a different perspective then. How comes that most foreigners are maligned here for expressing their views on things such as their lack of enthusiasm for Korean food to their views on Korean cars, that Park the soccer player isnt actually that good or that they should be ashamed of Choi the killer or the 'clone' scientist (numerous examples exist), yet Koreans can make such an appalling commercial spectacle of the Nazis and, once again, offer little to nothing in the way of an apology?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
Temporary wrote:
Samurai is the term for a warrior class. Nazi is a term for a political ideaology. Big friggen difference.

Some people here also fail to realize its not just about Jews. The Polish, and Russian suffered horrible attrocities under the Nazi occupation


it ended up being the same thing. Their ideology was the belief that they were the race destined to take over Asia and beyond. The Japanese were bent on world domination and they had the most modern and powerful army of any country in the world at that time. The Imjin war was a world war,with countries like Thiland sending some men to fight.

The Imjin war did not expand to include more countries because the Japanese were stopped in Korea. The Koreans achieved what the Poles could not in WWII. The samurai would have committed more atrocities if they had not been stopped in Korea.


Koreans achieved that because they were not fighting a technologically vastly superior army. In addition the Korean geography aided them tremendously. Korea is 70% mountainous peninsula. Korea was also saved by China.
Compare this with Poland, a country that is 80% plains and was invaded from north, west and south. And then for a good measure the Russians invaded from the east after two or so weeks. What exactly were they to do when thousands of tanks rolled in?

What�s the point of comparing apples with oranges?

You do also realise that many Koreans peasants sided with the Japanese during the Imjin war? This is because they were not being starved the way under their Korean rulers.

You do also realise that the Samurai had to defend their country from a joint Korean-Mongolian invasion only couple hundred years before.

It�s improper to compare Nazis with Samurai. Again, apples and oranges.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:


Css, if somebody succeeds in doing something that somebody else failed in doing then it implies that what the original party was doing was worth doing. The advertisement portrays, indirectly, the Nazis in a glamorous light and suggests that what they were doing wasn't anything to be ashamed of; they only failed because they didn't carry out their mission to the end, not because it was the wrong idea in the first place.

I met a person on the way home from my flight and he told me out loud 'the only thing Hitler did wrong was not wiping out ALL the Jews'.


Personally I think uniting the world IS something worth doing...Uniting east and west.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
tfunk wrote:


Css, if somebody succeeds in doing something that somebody else failed in doing then it implies that what the original party was doing was worth doing. The advertisement portrays, indirectly, the Nazis in a glamorous light and suggests that what they were doing wasn't anything to be ashamed of; they only failed because they didn't carry out their mission to the end, not because it was the wrong idea in the first place.

I met a person on the way home from my flight and he told me out loud 'the only thing Hitler did wrong was not wiping out ALL the Jews'.


Personally I think uniting the world IS something worth doing...Uniting east and west.


By wiping out half the population?
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Css



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:


By wiping out half the population?


Is that a serious question?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:


By wiping out half the population?


Is that a serious question?


Was your statement a serious statement?
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Css



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:


Was your statement a serious statement?


Yes it was.

Do you not think a unified world is a worthy goal? To get rid of all the petty squabbling?

Ok, if its a serious question then no. Oddly enough i dont think wiping out half the population is a good idea..but im pretty sure only a few people died during the development of that mung bean stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you guys get it? Koreans are awed by Hitler. Don't you hear the 와~~~.......whenever they see a video or picture of Hitler.

Hitler transformed a ruined and devastated post-WWI Germany into a mobilized super power. Koreans respect that.

Hitler spoke of a superior race unified by one blood. Koreans respect that.

Hitler got rid of dirty foreigners polluting the motherland. Koreans respect that.

Never mind the fact that he murdered millions. They don't care about that. Koreans do not give much attention to the means, only the end result. Just think that they elected a corrupt and two-faced president, simply because he'll make more jobs. They sweep facts they don't want to hear under the rug.

Koreans glamorize the Nazis. That's a sad fact.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passions wrote:
Don't you guys get it? Koreans are awed by Hitler. Don't you hear the 와~~~.......whenever they see a video or picture of Hitler.

Hitler transformed a ruinous and devastated post-WWI Germany into a mobilized super power. Koreans respect that.

Hitler spoke of a superior race unified by one blood. Koreans respect that.

Hitler got rid of dirty foreigners polluting the motherland. Koreans respect that.

Never mind the fact that he murdered millions. They don't care about that. Koreans do not give much attention to the means, only the end result. Just think that they elected a corrupt and two-faced president, simply because he'll make more jobs. They sweep facts they don't want to hear under the rug.

Koreans glamorize the Nazis. That's a sad fact.


I think you give the average korean too much credit..I very much doubt many of them know any of that stuff...they probably waaaa at the cool uniforms.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:

Personally I think uniting the world IS something worth doing...Uniting east and west.



I agree, but with what kind of system and by what means do you suggest we get there?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:



I agree, but with what kind of system and by what means do you suggest we get there?


Thats the million dollar question..I wish I could answer it...I really do.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
Css wrote:

Personally I think uniting the world IS something worth doing...Uniting east and west.



I agree, but with what kind of system and by what means do you suggest we get there?


Impossibility-closest thing was communism post 1945. Never going to happen becasue human nature is inherently selfish-not condemning it, but if nations cannot agree to stop slaughters in Tibet and Sudan...not giong to happen, unless you're hardcore into the rapture theology.


kiwiboy, I prefer the company of attractive women.
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