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Diana X2



Joined: 06 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: 30 3-year olds Reply with quote

what would you do with 30 3-year olds? the "kindergarten" (it seems much more like pre-school to me) tells me they are 5 but from what i know about the korean system of calculating age, plus what i can see from their physical appearance, they are much more like 3-4 years old. basically squirmy worms who can barely sit in a chair for more than 2 minutes, and there's 30 of them.

i have them for 30 mins 2x/week.

we have a book and it's good but they can't focus on it for long.
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there is a korean teacher, very nice, but she speaks no english and tends to come and go during the class...

i've tried many things so far but find they just aren't retaining stuff and that it's very hard to keep their attention too. one bad apple get started with his antics (and there's more than one in this bunch) and suddenly hair ribbons are flying, chairs are being knocked over and someone's screaming.... i think they'd swarm me and devour me alive if they could....

any recommendations for educational activities for this type of scenario?

tyvm.
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry I cant help, but just wanted to let you know I sympathize with you! I have just started teaching kindy (as young as yours as well), and its a tough job! Thank goodness I dont have so many students!

Good luck!
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have too many students in the class. Very young learners need individual attention and it is best to have 5 kids in a class at that age. What does it say in your employment contract? Do they say specific ages of learners? Try to drop the class as it won't improve.
















I love the Korean (just add water or foreigner in this case) approach to education whereby students should be able to gain knowledge, understanding and able to speak English by being in the shadow of foreigner. Much like photosythesis (sp.?) with flowers.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is a way...

Get rid of the furniture, push it off to the side. Get them up and running. Teach them basic verbs. Walk, run, jump, swim. Verb combos like walk-swim, run-fly. Have them run around doing the verbs. You have to keep the lesson moving fast, not one thing for more than a few minutes (5 maximum). Teach them feeling verbs...cold, hot, sleepy. etc. Have them act them out. Maybe have a song in the middle (alphabet song, row row row your boat). Do the alphabet slowly. Maybe 2 letters for 2 weeks. Use coloring sheets for the letters. Connect the dot ABC so they learn the order.

Sorry it is all jumbled up, I am just brainstorming.

Good luck!
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Enigma



Joined: 20 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught a class of about 25 3 and 4 year olds in Japan and it was probably my favourite class to teach. I only taught them twice a month rather than twice a week, though.
I looked at it with the perspective that I wanted to get the kids comfortable around and having fun with a foreigner, and looking forward to English every time so that they were more open to learning it as they got older.
I did a lot of the same things that oskinny1 mentioned above.
For example, I taught them things like, "How are you?" - "I'm hot/cold/hungry/thirsty etc."
Actions: Walk, jump, hop (on one foot), clap, turn around, run, etc. After they got those down, I would teach them don't______, so "Run, run, run, don't run." Although it probably doesn't sound that interesting, the kids loved it. Once they've got that, you could expand by teaching them "What are you doing? - I'm running."
I would often finish the class with the game Duck, duck, goose but would use numbers instead. The kids had a blast.
Picture books are great, too. You can ask them what colour the animals are. If you've taught them "swim, fly, etc." you can ask them, "Can a pig swim? Can an elephant fly?" Any ridiculous questions you can think of they'll love.
And keep changing things up. I would rarely have the kids sitting down for more than 3 or 4 minutes at a time, because they would just get restless and distracted.
The important thing to remember is to keep it fun, for you and for them. If you're having a good time, chances are most of them are having a good time.
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy s hit. You've just described what would be my personal Hell in Korea. I had a 2nd grade elementary class my first year and all I did was show popeye videos because of the non-attention span. pre-kindy/ kindy? 30!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY mother of god- you have it bad..... ouch.

Imagine dog sitting 30 dogs. that's what baby sitting 30 3 year old foreigners is going to be like minus the pleasant dog smell.


run away!!!!!!!!
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 30 3-year olds Reply with quote

Diana X2 wrote:
what would you do with 30 3-year olds? the "kindergarten" (it seems much more like pre-school to me) tells me they are 5 but from what i know about the korean system of calculating age, plus what i can see from their physical appearance, they are much more like 3-4 years old. basically squirmy worms who can barely sit in a chair for more than 2 minutes, and there's 30 of them.

i have them for 30 mins 2x/week.

we have a book and it's good but they can't focus on it for long.
.
there is a korean teacher, very nice, but she speaks no english and tends to come and go during the class...

i've tried many things so far but find they just aren't retaining stuff and that it's very hard to keep their attention too. one bad apple get started with his antics (and there's more than one in this bunch) and suddenly hair ribbons are flying, chairs are being knocked over and someone's screaming.... i think they'd swarm me and devour me alive if they could....

any recommendations for educational activities for this type of scenario?

tyvm.


all I can say is simon says, great for teaching verbs and basic nouns, plus you can even throw in left and right, up and down, front and backand colours. Get those kids running so much that they can't walk
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No activities for longer than a few minutes at a time (5-7). The more often you change it up, the easier it will be for them to pay attention. Get them to do as much movement as possible. Even (and especially) taking them outside when the weather is appropriate).

Also, make sure you follow the same basic framework for every class (ie...song, dance, act, colour, song, game). It'll reduce transition times if the kids know what they'll be doing next.

30 is a lot and I would have difficulty doing that by myself (not counting the K teacher...as though it matterred).

I'm teaching a class in Canada right now and when I've had subs come in for my TA, every one of them have said, "This class sucks". Eventually, that starts to wear you down.

So yeah, your class is tough and you have my sympathy. But what it comes down to is your ability to get the job done. And I'm positive that if you put in the right effort, you can do it!
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
No activities for longer than a few minutes at a time (5-7). The more often you change it up, the easier it will be for them to pay attention. Get them to do as much movement as possible. Even (and especially) taking them outside when the weather is appropriate).

Also, make sure you follow the same basic framework for every class (ie...song, dance, act, colour, song, game). It'll reduce transition times if the kids know what they'll be doing next.

30 is a lot and I would have difficulty doing that by myself (not counting the K teacher...as though it matterred).

I'm teaching a class in Canada right now and when I've had subs come in for my TA, every one of them have said, "This class sucks". Eventually, that starts to wear you down.

So yeah, your class is tough and you have my sympathy. But what it comes down to is your ability to get the job done. And I'm positive that if you put in the right effort, you can do it!


yeah, but why try when there are better jobs for more money EVERYWHERE in this country?

kindy is a sucker job. that makes pre-kindy a retard's job? wow.

I want to open a kindy hagwon and hire the OP....
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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