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antgonz
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Questions about Hanaro Telecom and KT Internet |
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Hanaro Telecom ([url]hanafos.com[/url]) says it can give me a 5 megabyte connection. How fast is that in terms of downloading. They say because of the area I live in that I can't get the faster connection. How many megabytes per second will I be downloading at?
Now with KT it says it has a 100M/100M (Downlink/uplink)
3 year contract 2 year contract 1 year contract No period Speed
(Downlink/Uplink)1)
34,000 36,000 38,000 40,000 100M / 100M
How fast is 100M/100M? Does that mean I will download at 100 Megabytes a second?
http://www.kt.com/eng/pro/dome_internet_Megapass%20Special.jsp?pageNum=1&subNum=3
Does anyone have any suggestions what is a good internet provider that is super fast?
I looked here
http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=4&country=89®ion=401
and it seems Hanaro is pretty good. Problem is some of those others like LG Powercomm that are listed I can't find through yahoo!, maybe they are for only corporations? |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Where do you live?
I think that limits if you can get the 100/100
100M line in theory gives you around 10MB/s down or there abouts.
5M line means about 500KB/s down or thereabouts.
Not exact and I can't be bothered to do it exactly but I am sure one of the more pedantic posters will do it exactly for you - |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| That's funny, I have a 10m connection and I get 10m down. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Speeds are usually in megabits per second.
So it appears like:
Hanaro is offering 512k.bytes /sec (typical cable speeds).
KT says you can get 10m.bytes /sec (typical LAN/WAN 10 baseT).
unless you have a dedicated LAN connection for your downloads this will USUALLY be faster than the uploader has capacity. Speeds will also slow down (sometimes significantly) below this level if you are downloading from sites OUTSIDE of Korea.
Even on my line at home I seldom get download speeds (except from Korean sites) that exceed 2 megabytes per second (even on a dedicated VPN).
From Korean sites I can usually get up to 5-10 megabytes per sec.
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| spliff wrote: |
| That's funny, I have a 10m connection and I get 10m down. |
what is this m you are talking about?
10 metres? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| No, 10 moosedicks. |
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antgonz
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Speeds are usually in megabits per second.
So it appears like:
Hanaro is offering 512k.bytes /sec (typical cable speeds).
KT says you can get 10m.bytes /sec (typical LAN/WAN 10 baseT).
unless you have a dedicated LAN connection for your downloads this will USUALLY be faster than the uploader has capacity. Speeds will also slow down (sometimes significantly) below this level if you are downloading from sites OUTSIDE of Korea.
Even on my line at home I seldom get download speeds (except from Korean sites) that exceed 2 megabytes per second (even on a dedicated VPN).
From Korean sites I can usually get up to 5-10 megabytes per sec. |
So are you saying that KT is faster only if I have LAN line? Would Hanaro be faster then? What would you get if you were me?
mrsquirrel - I live in Youngdeungpo in an apartment building |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| antgonz wrote: |
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Speeds are usually in megabits per second.
So it appears like:
Hanaro is offering 512k.bytes /sec (typical cable speeds).
KT says you can get 10m.bytes /sec (typical LAN/WAN 10 baseT).
unless you have a dedicated LAN connection for your downloads this will USUALLY be faster than the uploader has capacity. Speeds will also slow down (sometimes significantly) below this level if you are downloading from sites OUTSIDE of Korea.
Even on my line at home I seldom get download speeds (except from Korean sites) that exceed 2 megabytes per second (even on a dedicated VPN).
From Korean sites I can usually get up to 5-10 megabytes per sec. |
So are you saying that KT is faster only if I have LAN line? Would Hanaro be faster then? What would you get if you were me?
mrsquirrel - I live in Youngdeungpo in an apartment building |
No.
You will have a LAN line to the wall and 10baseT capacity from there to the "internet" if you go with KT. You WILL pay a premium for that capacity.
Hanaro will probably be about 1/2 the cost and will have cable TV bundled with it.
What I was saying is that you will have 10baseT (LAN capacity) from your computer to the "internet" but you will NOT likely have 10baseT connectivity to the average P2P host you will be downloading your torrents from (unless there is a dedicated VPN from you to them.
Their capacity will usually be MUCH less AND you will have to share bandwith with the other transpacific users on the internet.
The limit of your speed will probably be the hosts you are getting your data from and NOT the connection you have here.
For your average user a cable connection is ample (surfing, VOD, download 1 or 2 movies a day).
IF you are uploading / downloading TERABYTES of data every day then you will want to get the fastest thing you can get but unless you are downloading from Korean sites the extra bandwidth is not going to be utilized 90% of the time.
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antgonz
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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so ttompatz, Hanaro might be faster because I won't have to share my bandwidth and you say :
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You will have a LAN line to the wall and 10baseT capacity from there to the "internet" if you go with KT. You WILL pay a premium for that capacity.
Hanaro will probably be about 1/2 the cost and will have cable TV bundled with it.
What I was saying is that you will have 10baseT (LAN capacity) from your computer to the "internet" but you will NOT likely have 10baseT connectivity to the average P2P host you will be downloading your torrents from (unless there is a dedicated VPN from you to them. |
So that extra speed is worthless because I won't have 10baseT connectivity? Okay. Thanks for your help. Kinda confusing but detailed. So in the end Hanaro will be faster? Thanks |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| antgonz wrote: |
so ttompatz, Hanaro might be faster because I won't have to share my bandwidth and you say :
So that extra speed is worthless because I won't have 10baseT connectivity? Okay. Thanks for your help. Kinda confusing but detailed. So in the end Hanaro will be faster? Thanks |
That is NOT what I said.
Try reading and not just skimming.
Hanaro will NOT be faster (it is about 1/20th the speed of KT from your computer to the hub)
BUT
you may not need the extra bandwidth that you will pay a premium for by going to KT
BECAUSE
the people you are connecting to are 1/2 way around the planet and do not have high bandwidth connections.
Think like this.
KT is a firehose.
Hanaro is a garden hose.
The internet is a water main.
The people you are getting files from have a water straw for uploads.
Where is the bottle neck? How much bandwidth do you really need?
If you are pulling from 1000 water straws you may want to go with KT. IF you are pulling from a couple garden hoses then hanaro may be all you really need.
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antgonz
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Depends if you are using public or private trackers for torrents as well.
A well seeded torrent can download at 4MB/s+ if you have the bandwidth.
One from IPtorrents that is in the top ten will come down in the 8MB/s range which is fucking fast. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| mrsquirrel wrote: |
Depends if you are using public or private trackers for torrents as well.
A well seeded torrent can download at 4MB/s+ if you have the bandwidth.
One from IPtorrents that is in the top ten will come down in the 8MB/s range which is fucking fast. |
Hence the 1000 water straws feeding into a firehose. |
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JungMin
Joined: 18 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| So, whats the fastest service?? Megapass Special?? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| JungMin wrote: |
| So, whats the fastest service?? Megapass Special?? |
Fiber direct to home is the fastest. |
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