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Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are a white person in Korea. That means you will be watched 24/7. The fact that you are a giant will command more attention. I for one miss my anonymity but I guess there are other benefits of living here that compensate for it. If you don't like being the center of attention like me, there will be days where you simply want to strangle people. You just need to try to keep it in perspective and realize most people are just curious. If you stay here more than a couple of years, I guarantee you will find yourself staring at every white person you see as well. It is the national past time. It isn't as bad as when I came here four years ago however. Most of the kids don't seem to freak out every time they see a white person now days.
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have multiple strikes against me:

1) Heavy

My first day in class, the kids had a little reading assignment. The words were "She is fat. She isn't thin." Even though I'm a male, after the class, each kid came up to me, poked me in the stomach and said "She is fat. She isn't thin." And they giggled and giggled. My firm belief is that, while in the states, you'd never point something like someone's weight out in a public forum like that, when the Koreans (particularly kids) do it here, it's truly just out of novelty and there's just nothing negative implied. Actually, many kids adore me. Some of them call me Santa Claus.

2) Older than the other teachers (I'm 39 and they're all 20-something)

First day in class, one older female student asked "Teacher, hold old?" I responded "In American years, 39; In Korean years, 40." She said (remember, she's probably 12 or 13), "Oh, still young!" Her very next question was "Married?" I said "no" and when she asked "why?" I said "Still young!" It hasn't been an issue since.

3) Gay (not that the Koreans know - they seem pretty oblivious to clues that any Westerner would pick up on)
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ReeseDog



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's not just being heavy. White folks stand out like a booger on a wedding cake. Got it.
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
So it's not just being heavy. White folks stand out like a booger on a wedding cake. Got it.


Oh, I like that expression. I'm going to remember it.
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KumaraKitty



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
So it's not just being heavy. White folks stand out like a booger on a wedding cake. Got it.


That brings a fabulous mental image! Love it!

For the big guys I've known here, most have had a good time.
Some said they had difficulty teaching younger kids because they would be scared, some had complaints against them and lost jobs because parents were scared as well.
But that was combination of visible tatoos, facial hair, large body size and smaller schools in smaller cities.
They also had trouble with clothing fitting and had to trek to Itaewon to get new stuff. Oh, and the Summers made them miserable thanks to the humidity, but the humidity makes a lot of Foreigners miserable!
Overall I think a positive attitude will help you and really it's not that bad. I'm 5'2"and female. I once had the elevator doors open, a boy step in, look at me, scream and step back out before the doors shut.
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ciccone_youth



Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe!!!

just keep in mind that kids will point out any noticeable flaw you have, they notice every single thing. they don't do it in a mean way, they are just straightforward about things.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciccone_youth wrote:
hehe!!!

just keep in mind that kids will point out any noticeable flaw you have, they notice every single thing. they don't do it in a mean way, they are just straightforward about things.


yeah that's amazing really but then they can't pick up on commas and periods not to mention article usage - go figure Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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citizen erased



Joined: 06 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: ...and if you're not skinny? Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
From reading posts here, I gather that Koreans generally have a chuckle at the expense of westerners who aren't cadaverously thin. That may be overstatement, actually, but I was curious about experiences of those teachers in Korea who aren't supermodel-skinny. Are the natives quick to point and stare? Does one need be clinically atrophied to avoid the comments? As a prospective teacher in Korea who packs a few extra pounds, I'd appreciate any intel I can get. Thanks much.


its amazing to me that anyone maintains their normal weight here. im thin to begin with and i cant gain weight here no matter what i try. theres no food here.
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Brady



Joined: 25 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'6" and pushing 200 pounds. Quite literally every Korean I've ever met has told me I'm tall. Which is great, because I was beginning to forget. Most of the hagwon kids are used to me now, and they get one of the world's best piggy-back rides.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'3" and 225 lbs. I never get told I'm fat except when I got my recruiter's exam.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im fat and ive never had any comments....ive had people looking but they look at all white folk...

edit..by comments i mean insults on the street..that kind of thing...you will find that people you know are somewhat more honest than they are back home..they will tell you you are fat..but not in a malicious way..

if you actually are fat that is.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hank the Iconoclast wrote:
I'm 6'3" and 225 lbs. I never get told I'm fat except when I got my recruiter's exam.


at that height /weight you shouldn't be fat.

though it depends on the "composition" of your weight.

Typical crap like BMI marketed to the obese US public becomes meaningless if you are involved in any sort of athletics that involve resistance/weight training.

elite NFL running backs are often under 6 feet tall and weigh 210 lbs or so, Walter Payton was 5,10 probably on his tippy toes and he weighed 210 plus and the guy was essentially a wall of muscle with less than 10% body fat.

under BMI guidelines, he'd be considered massively obese.

as i said, absolutely USELESS if you ever lift weights or toss cows or manure around on the farm Smile

elite physical specimens like some NFL linebackers are often something like 6'3 and 240.

I'm 5'11, and when in very good shape, I weigh around 195. Once I fell down to around 185-186 (when I was in Cuba, didn't eat as much, little access to real protein) and I almost looked as gauntly drawn as a ghost
p.s. Css - agreed re comments, honest not malicious.

I think the ahemm (Bullshit) BMI would have rated me as "overweight" at that level Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an American lady friend, she's a bit of the chubs side. She gets told quite a lot by her teachers and boss that's she's a bit fat. First it was probably a bit of a cultural misunderstanding that telling somebody they're fat is not a nice thing in the West. She told them, this but they still seem to persist with it. Shame really.

I'm 6 foot and weigh 171lbs (78kgs) I'm well within my BMI, but then again I'm vege and go to the gym three times a week and play footie with my students a couple of times a week. The PE teacher at one of my schools who I have a bit of banter with (he secretly likes me as opposed to other native teachers he's worked with and he says as much) about the fact he thinks I'm fat. I find this funny because he's a soju alcoholic. Which would be worse?

I am a bit hairy, legs, arms and bit on the hands, and I have daily well kept stubble on my face because I hate to be clean shaven. The fact I'm hairy is probably more of a eyeopener for Koreans, especially at the gym. To be honest I don't really notice people staring at me, I've got better things to be getting on with than to bother about this. I get in the monkey comment with my kids before they get the chance. What I've found that in later life you are sensitive to comments about nose size, hairiness, weight, size, one ear bigger than the other, then you obviously didn't go through school yourself particularly well without getting used to these issues. Not everyone who's adult acts like they are when they come to comments like this.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
Hank the Iconoclast wrote:
I'm 6'3" and 225 lbs. I never get told I'm fat except when I got my recruiter's exam.


at that height /weight you shouldn't be fat.

though it depends on the "composition" of your weight.

Typical crap like BMI marketed to the obese US public becomes meaningless if you are involved in any sort of athletics that involve resistance/weight training.

elite NFL running backs are often under 6 feet tall and weigh 210 lbs or so, Walter Payton was 5,10 probably on his tippy toes and he weighed 210 plus and the guy was essentially a wall of muscle with less than 10% body fat.

under BMI guidelines, he'd be considered massively obese.

as i said, absolutely USELESS if you ever lift weights or toss cows or manure around on the farm Smile

elite physical specimens like some NFL linebackers are often something like 6'3 and 240.

I'm 5'11, and when in very good shape, I weigh around 195. Once I fell down to around 185-186 (when I was in Cuba, didn't eat as much, little access to real protein) and I almost looked as gauntly drawn as a ghost
p.s. Css - agreed re comments, honest not malicious.

I think the ahemm (Bullshit) BMI would have rated me as "overweight" at that level Smile


Well, unless I am under 200..I am considered fat in Korea Smile
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Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pfft... I could have been a linebacker, but joined the band and played Trombone instead... That makes me a real man Razz
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