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ontheway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr endorsed by Libertarian candidate, Polls 7% in Potential Presidential Bid

April 11, 2008 at 1:56 pm � Filed under 2008, NewsLog, Politics

One day after receiving the endorsement of the Libertarian Party's leading presidential candidate, a new poll commissioned by the Bob Barr 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committee found that seven percent of likely voters said they would vote for the former Georgia congressman if he were a presidential candidate.

The poll conducted by Pulse Opinion Research also showed Barr enjoyed 36 percent name recognition.

"Bob Barr's name recognition and voter support are tremendous considering he has never run as a national candidate and has yet to spend any money on advertising," said Russell Verney, Ross Perot 's 1996 campaign manager. Now a Barr Exploratory Committee volunteer, Verney thinks Barr's 36% name recognition will improve his chance being accepted as a serious candidate. "In the event Bob Barr officially enters the race, he will already be half way to qualifying for the fall Presidential debates.�

On Thursday, Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Jackson said he was dropping out of the race to endorse Bob Barr. �I have terminated my campaign in favor of full support to Bob Barr and I encourage you to also support Bob Barr,� Jackson announced on the home page of his website.

Barr has been a Libertarian since he quit the Republican party and endorsed the Libertarian presidential ticket in 2004.

Since joining the Libertarians, Barr has abandoned his previous support for the "drug war", and is now a lobbyist for the Marijuana Policy Project, which advocates regulating the possession and sale of cannabis.

Barr is also an outspoken critic of the Patriot Act, and is a privacy advocate.

The Libertarian National Convention will choose its presidential nominee on May 22 - 26 in Denver, Colorado.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More notes on the poll:

Shortly after Ross Perot announced he was re-entering the presidential race in October 1992, he polled at seven percent.

Barr is considering whether to seek the nomination of the Libertarian Party for president.

According to the latest poll, Barr enjoys 36 percent name recognition.

When questions were asked reminding voters about Barr�s role in the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton, and about the reasons why Barr left the Republican Party to join the Libertarian Party, Barr�s seven percent rose to nine percent against Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain. He polled at eleven percent against Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

The telephone survey of 1,000 �Likely Voters� was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research on April 3, 2008. Pulse Opinion Research, LLC is an independent public opinion research firm using automated polling methodology and procedures licensed from Rasmussen Reports, LLC. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Barr on the issues.

I must say his issues concerning tax and spending fit right with my philosophy, though I can't accept abandoning Iraq. Speaking of which, if all of you liberal democrats really want to see an end to the war in Iraq, an end to Gitmo and the PATRIOT act, you really ought to consider Bob Barr. I'm telling you, we may have a Democrat executive, Dem house and a filibuster proof Dem Senate majority and we will not see an end to Iraq, and end to Gitmo nor an end to the PATRIOT act. The only thing they'll accomplish is raising taxes and increase the cost of doing business. Like I said, dems talk a good game but have got no backbone; they're spineless.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that now we are doing the sequel.


TSUNAMI II--Starring Bob Barr
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he wants to waste his time and money, more power to him.
Anybody that pulls votes away from McCain is a credit to humanity in my book.

I can't say I disagree with Barr on every issue. However, his "Nanny State" stuff and repealing the 16th amendment are kind of absurd.
We need to streamline regulation and cut loopholes, not give corporation more freedom to steal our money, rape women, authorize murders worldwide, poison our water and our children, silence dissent, and export jobs to escape legal protections. And he has not said how he plans to do that; in fact, he wants the opposite.

Without taxes, how is going to pay for "border security", whatever that's supposed to mean?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Without taxes, how is going to pay for "border security", whatever that's supposed to mean?


In the 19th Century, they did it with protective tariffs. Since that is the era his ideas seem to come from, perhaps that is what he has in mind.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Does this mean Ron Paul isn't running as an independent?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto wrote:
Bob Barr on the issues.

I must say his issues concerning tax and spending fit right with my philosophy, though I can't accept abandoning Iraq. Speaking of which, if all of you liberal democrats really want to see an end to the war in Iraq, an end to Gitmo and the PATRIOT act, you really ought to consider Bob Barr. I'm telling you, we may have a Democrat executive, Dem house and a filibuster proof Dem Senate majority and we will not see an end to Iraq, and end to Gitmo nor an end to the PATRIOT act. The only thing they'll accomplish is raising taxes and increase the cost of doing business. Like I said, dems talk a good game but have got no backbone; they're spineless.

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1. I do think we'll see an end to Gitmo no matter who wins in November. That one is inevitable. You're probably right about the Patriot Act, and I definitely agree with Iraq.

2. I wouldn't say it is a lack of a backbone. I'd say they're just playing to the electorate and know what will win them votes. GOP loves to BS too. Just look at what Bush promised in 2000. Wink Also, I think if the winner is pragmatic about Iraq, then he/she will realize that we're in quite a bad position, and it will hard for us to quickly pull out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:

We need to streamline regulation and cut loopholes, not give corporation more freedom to steal our money, rape women, authorize murders worldwide, poison our water and our children, silence dissent, and export jobs to escape legal protections.


There are regulations to keep corporations from stealing money, raping women, murdering, and poisoning water. These regulations are called the 'Criminal Code.'

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
1. I do think we'll see an end to Gitmo no matter who wins in November. That one is inevitable. You're probably right about the Patriot Act, and I definitely agree with Iraq.

2. I wouldn't say it is a lack of a backbone. I'd say they're just playing to the electorate and know what will win them votes. GOP loves to BS too. Just look at what Bush promised in 2000. Wink Also, I think if the winner is pragmatic about Iraq, then he/she will realize that we're in quite a bad position, and it will hard for us to quickly pull out.


Bush hasn't been the best president though he's been better than most. Bush envisioned an ownership society and compassionate conservatism in 2000. I think he really meant a lot of what he said. I didn't agree with the NCLB act nor did I agree with his stupid Medicare prescription bill. The taxes cuts should be made permanent. He wanted to to privatize Social Security but he couldn't. Bush couldn't accomplish a lot of what he wanted because the Iraq War sucked so much out of his presidency. Bringing me back to my earlier point. Everyone thinks that Liberal Democrats are the answer to Bush which is absurd. All they will do is increase all spending for every program from ABC to XYZ. Then they'll raise taxes and after they tax the American public to the hilt, they'll inflate the currency.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May 8, 2008
Former Republican to seek Libertarian presidential nomination
Posted: 10:30 AM ET

Bob Barr will announce a presidential run Monday.
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Former Republican Rep. Bob Barr will announce Monday that he will run for president as a Libertarian, a source close to the Georgian told CNN.

Barr will officially declare his candidacy at a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington. The four-term congressman left the GOP in 2006, saying that Republicans had "lost their core principles."

Barr made a name for himself in Congress for his ardent conservative philosophy and his role in President Clinton's impeachment. He lost a primary election in 2002.

Last month, Barr formed a presidential exploratory committee as he weighed a run for the White House. The source said that Barr had been considering a presidential bid "for several months. He currently runs Liberty Strategies, a consulting firm in Atlanta and Washington.

Barr joins a handful of other candidates seeking the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination including former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who unsuccessfully sought the Democratic presidential nomination this year. Libertarians meet in Denver on May 22 for a four day convention where members will choose the party's presidential nominee.

From: CNN Political Editor Mark Preston
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto wrote:

Bush hasn't been the best president though he's been better than most. Bush envisioned an ownership society and compassionate conservatism in 2000. I think he really meant a lot of what he said. I didn't agree with the NCLB act nor did I agree with his stupid Medicare prescription bill. The taxes cuts should be made permanent. He wanted to to privatize Social Security but he couldn't. Bush couldn't accomplish a lot of what he wanted because the Iraq War sucked so much out of his presidency. Bringing me back to my earlier point. Everyone thinks that Liberal Democrats are the answer to Bush which is absurd. All they will do is increase all spending for every program from ABC to XYZ. Then they'll raise taxes and after they tax the American public to the hilt, they'll inflate the currency.


Better than most? what??? Spending has shot up during his presidency.He didn't veto a spending bill until last year. Pathetic. The gov't hasn't grown this much since LBJ. 9/11 is responsible for less than 10% of it. PATHETIC.

Pluto, spare me the stereotype of raising taxes to the hilt. Please provide an example the last time the democrats did that. Hint: you'll have to go back a few decades.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Pluto wrote:

Bush hasn't been the best president though he's been better than most. Bush envisioned an ownership society and compassionate conservatism in 2000. I think he really meant a lot of what he said. I didn't agree with the NCLB act nor did I agree with his stupid Medicare prescription bill. The taxes cuts should be made permanent. He wanted to to privatize Social Security but he couldn't. Bush couldn't accomplish a lot of what he wanted because the Iraq War sucked so much out of his presidency. Bringing me back to my earlier point. Everyone thinks that Liberal Democrats are the answer to Bush which is absurd. All they will do is increase all spending for every program from ABC to XYZ. Then they'll raise taxes and after they tax the American public to the hilt, they'll inflate the currency.


Better than most? what??? Spending has shot up during his presidency.He didn't veto a spending bill until last year. Pathetic. The gov't hasn't grown this much since LBJ. 9/11 is responsible for less than 10% of it. PATHETIC.

Pluto, spare me the stereotype of raising taxes to the hilt. Please provide an example the last time the democrats did that. Hint: you'll have to go back a few decades.


You know, you're right about GW Bush. It's regretful but you are right. GW Bush has brought back the country-club and Rockefeller Republicans with a vengeance. I think he wanted to privatize a lot of our entitlement programs but the Iraq War has just sucked everything out of his presidency.

As for the democrats, if you don't think the democrats are going to raise taxes, you're sadly mistaken. Sould we really go into Obama's plan to raise the capital gains tax and lift the payroll tax? You do know about Charlie Rangel's master tax plan, don't you?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raising taxes is one thing. Raising them to the hilt is another.

I think any President is going to have to raise taxes to pay off the present war and that crazy prescription drug entitlement.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
agentX wrote:

We need to streamline regulation and cut loopholes, not give corporation more freedom to steal our money, rape women, authorize murders worldwide, poison our water and our children, silence dissent, and export jobs to escape legal protections.


There are regulations to keep corporations from stealing money, raping women, murdering, and poisoning water. These regulations are called the 'Criminal Code.'

Rolling Eyes


Try telling that to Halliburton.
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