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latinthrilla · Joined: 10 Feb 2006

I've been doing the UNE program part time (takes 2 years). It is not a Mickey Mouse program, if it was I would have dropped it after the first week. The work load is heavy. I read more than I ever could have imagined and it's actually useful.

I'm not saying which program is better than another but UNE is solid.

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

somewhere up thread someone askked about university of phoenix. i can say is google something like "university of phoenix sucks" and read.

that place is a scam to get suckers to take out student loans. and then they milk the grants. the drop out rates are sky high.

my co-workers husband was using phoenix. his math class was tough. group work but everyone in his groupslacked and let him carry ALL the water.

TECO · Joined: 20 Jan 2003

USQ - The University of Southern Queensland - and UNE - The University of New England - are both garbage programs.

It doesn't matter if you study on campus or via distance, they don't provide quality programs and don't have eminent scholars teaching there in the TESOL field.

The stories I've heard from The University of Queensland and other Australian universities would shock those who are studying via distance education.

They're essentially degree mills.

articulate_ink · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:30 am Post subject:

TECO · Joined: 20 Jan 2003

1. Read between the lines, buddy. I'm not going to reveal who I am.

2. You caught 'em off guard - they didn't know what they were getting or where you came from.

Feel lucky. Word is out.

bellum99 · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know

If you plan to teach English to spoiled Koreans for a long time, then it is good to get the online degree (Uni jobs). But if you will go home in the next few years , then it is not good to get it. I recommend getting an online degree from a school in your home country. No one back home respects a weird sounding degree, from a school no one has ever heard of, in a country that is far far far away.

*** You could be spending a lot of money for nothing. Further education should help you for life...if it is more than $20,000 U.S and useless back home, then why do it?

Young FRANKenstein · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject:

latinthrilla · Joined: 10 Feb 2006

I wasn't going to post, as I feel like it is pointless sometimes. However, this is for people wanting real information. Education is always worth it. What you learn helps you make money if you apply it properly. As far as recognition goes, UNE is accepted in Canada and distance education is not looked down on. Don't let negative people influence you from starting an online degree. In terms of money, higher education almost always means more money (unless you are useless).

P.S.

I'm not in the program to land a job. I have business and make more than you can imagine. I'm in the program because I like it. Good luck.

bellum99 · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know

Thiuda · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject:

Teco is a troll. Pretends to be someone who is educated and in the know, but is neither. Makes claims about programs he knows nothing about and doesn't back his assertions up. Swears a lot. Sounds more like a drop out than a graduate.

If you're considering doing an online program, don't get discouraged by anything you read on Dave's. Do your own research and see what programs you're interested in, ask around to see what others have to say about these programs, read program reviews by objective sources, and don't go for the program that promises to accept life-experience as a substitute for coursework.

Thiuda · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject:

latinthrilla · Joined: 10 Feb 2006

Like I said, it's pointless sometimes to try and help. Anyways, I agree with bellum99 (despite his comments about buying a car, which is a horrible investment in most cases). Education will pay itself off ONLY if you use it right. Enough said.

Bellum99, not everyone comes to Korea for the same reasons. So not everyone is in the same boat as you. Those of us that have business in Korea like it here and came here for reasons very different from your own. I know articulate_ink, and I would listen to the advice he gives.

Good luck

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

I think there is a lot of good, common sense perspective and info. on this thread - for anyone thinking of a long term career in TEFL / TESL or ESOL. Where you get your degree doesn't ALWAYS matter if the person doing the digging has muscles. IF not, they can get buried with all the "extranneous" they are trying to bury on the way to LIFE, TRUTH.

So, in many cases, it does make a difference -- the institutions, the instructors you encounter and the program/curriculum/work you digest.

TECO wrote:
USQ - The University of Southern Queensland - and UNE - The University of New England - are both garbage programs.

It doesn't matter if you study on campus or via distance, they don't provide quality programs and don't have eminent scholars teaching there in the TESOL field.

The stories I've heard from The University of Queensland and other Australian universities would shock those who are studying via distance education.