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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: california going out of business? Reply with quote

the apgujung gym closed its doors last week and the myung-dong location didn't have any staff today. there are rumours that the whole place has gone bankrupt. does anyone have any info?

i'm going tomorrow to th gangnam gym find out what i can. i'm a little pissed as i just renewed for the year (it was a big chunk of change).
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jetrash



Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: the united steaks

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gyms often suddenly close down here.
its the usual creative world classe korean biz model :

some lovely korean males take the membership fees for the year,5 yrs whatever,etc IN ADVANCE....reach critical membership mass,then do a runner with the all dough.
all the money in ,no momey out

gym turns into run down ghost gym, the korean women dont get their criminally low won in the hand wages,then dont turn up to operate reception,clean the place,do the work,etc..then it closes,usually on the quiet(face/shame)

.. happened here in anyang to a gym recently.
i go in there n work out in the ghost gym now for free as all the barriers are down and unstaffed.pool has been emptied.
it is getting a bit dirty tho now,worried about the filth so will prob stop.


..... happens quite a bit in the land of the morning integrity.. all is well, till we got ya money. Laughing Laughing

classic k scam number 366.
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cbeckhurst



Joined: 15 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: California Wow Reply with quote

Don't bother going to the Gangnam California Wow...it closed its doors today too.
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I warned you people about this awhile back! Twisted Evil
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad i didnt renew last spring, best facilities in korea but likely some of the worst management.

think things started going downhill when they changed ownership about 18 months ago
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope some people FINALLY learn:
Never ever put down big key money,
Never ever pay for anything in advance
The bigger the discount for advance payment, the more you should be wary.
If you have to make an advance payment, make it a deposit, and as small as possible.
Trust No one!
It's amazing how in a country with a crapolla legal system, crapolla police, heaps of corruption, many people are MORE trusting than they would be at home.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Hope some people FINALLY learn:
Never ever put down big key money,
Never ever pay for anything in advance
The bigger the discount for advance payment, the more you should be wary.
If you have to make an advance payment, make it a deposit, and as small as possible.
Trust No one!
It's amazing how in a country with a crapolla legal system, crapolla police, heaps of corruption, many people are MORE trusting than they would be at home.


Hasn't this happened "back home"?
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crsandus



Joined: 05 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kind of sucks. I was thinking about joining someday to check out all celebs and hot ladies that I keep on hearing about.
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Join Me



Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also agree not to pay a lot upfront here. At my last gym, I bought a year membership. Within three months they went from being spread out over 2 floors to crammed into one small floor. I guess I was lucky they didn't just close though. I think they are out of business now however. Just joined a new gym and paid 6 months upfront figuring since they just opened they will make it at least four months if business is bad. Yeh, so far business is bad. If I make it to the 6 month point without them closing up, I will probably look for another gym that won't be going under in the immediate future.
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jaeexp



Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Just came back from Myungdong Reply with quote

Yup, both Apgu and Kangnam have closed down and I just returned from the Myungdong branch where crowds of Koreans were shouting and demanding answers. The pissed ajummas were walking out with the yoga mats (very enjoyable), and it was generally a huge fiasco. I'm kinda pissed too cos I had a lifetime membership. But I'm sure the people who joined just last week (instead of two years ago) will be somewhat more pissed than I am!
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm..Any other gyms of comparable size and quality in the Seoul area? I like not feeling crowded when I'm working out.
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cbeckhurst



Joined: 15 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: california wow Reply with quote

can we do anything about getting our money back? There was a lady at the gangnam one collecting names and numbers to file a lawsuit...any ideas?

yeah and any other gyms around gangnam/yeoksam station?
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can we do anything about getting our money back? There was a lady at the gangnam one collecting names and numbers to file a lawsuit...any ideas?

What does it take for some people to learn? Electric Shock Therapy!

Korea has a crapolla legal system, unless a debt is secured by property, chances of recovering any debt are close to zero.

Major Western companies have been scammed, and could'nt recover debts, what makes you think you can?

That's why Koreans strongly prefer to do business with people they know.

Why do you think there are some many illegal Koreans in the US and The Phillipines. They've gone bust, or defrauded a lot of people and then done a runner.

Repeat this line until it finally sinks in,

"No, I can't get my money back"
"No, I can't get my money back" loop
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
can we do anything about getting our money back? There was a lady at the gangnam one collecting names and numbers to file a lawsuit...any ideas?

What does it take for some people to learn? Electric Shock Therapy!

Korea has a crapolla legal system,
unless a debt is secured by property, chances of recovering any debt are close to zero.

Major Western companies have been scammed, and could'nt recover debts, what makes you think you can?

That's why Koreans strongly prefer to do business with people they know.

Why do you think there are some many illegal Koreans in the US and The Phillipines. They've gone bust, or defrauded a lot of people and then done a runner.

Repeat this line until it finally sinks in,

"No, I can't get my money back"
"No, I can't get my money back" loop


Goldmember, have you never seen gyms do this type of thing in the West?

It's crappy, but it happens all over, and there's little recourse for those who have paid - regardless of what country they are in.

All too often, the own walks (or flies) away.
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I saw the topic "California going out of business" I thought you were talking about the state. And if you were, then the statement would be very true.
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